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[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

See, this is the actual reason why I’ll never trust robots. Even if everything is magically released in a perfect working state, all it takes is one buffer stack overflow from a bad update or static on a chip to turn your dignified butler robot into a limb detatcher in 200ms flat.

If it can physically hurt you, assume at all times that machines are dangerous. This is why we have safetys and e-stops for everything. You can’t safety a humanoid robot as we just saw here.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Your phone can explode. Your PC's power supply can catch fire. Your electric car can burst into flames. Yet you happily use all of them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

... And people are just as unpredictable. Think how many shootings quote the shooter's neighbors saying something to the effect of them never expecting such a thing of the shooter.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Your phone can explode

This happens almost never and can be pretty easily prevented with regular care to your device. It’s hard to have this happen with normal use.

Your PC’s power supply can catch fire

And I can run out of the room

Your electric car can burst into flames

This one has the most validity, and there’s a reason I drive a car from ‘03 with no driving assists

Yet you happily use all of them

Because I know exactly what to expect from their failures and how to avoid being hurt by them. A robot with the same limbs (that are likely far stronger) as a human can do more than 100% of the damage a human can do, especially in relaxed at-home setting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Exactly my point. Why would you be afraid of a robot acting out and be dangerous?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Because 5 limbs with a dozen joints flailing in a house is a lot different than all of the scenarios you gave.

A car has three inputs: gas, brake, steering. A fire can start only from a flammable source and in the case of electric cars, I still personally don’t prefer them.

Anything can be dangerous in an extreme. But imagining a humanoid robot in the room with a kid? No matter how you spin that, no thanks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

In the end it's all about using dangerous tools responsibly. I don't think a robot used responsibly is any more dangerous than a car being used responsibly. I don't see a reason to dismiss robots entirely just because of some rare occurance in a development environment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I frickin love my machines. CNC, laser cutter, 3d printers. Bring on the bots.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

All of which I have worked with and fit neatly in boxes. All about context and environment.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It woke up and chose violence.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago

Karate chop!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
  1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.

  2. A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

  3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not doable because it will eat away the profit margins. /s

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

Could you imagine an artifical mind actually trying to obey these? You can't even get past #1 without being aware of the infinite number of things you could do cartesian-producted with all the consequential downstream effects of those actions until the end of time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

No one ever explained why they had to obey those laws, in the 1st place....only that they had to.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

𝕓𝕠𝕠𝕥𝕚𝕟𝕘 𝕤𝕜𝕪𝕟𝕖𝕥 𝟘.𝟙𝟚... ok
𝕖𝕟𝕥𝕖𝕣 𝕡𝕒𝕤𝕤𝕨𝕠𝕣𝕕... wolfie_is_fine

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I'm Mr Meseeks. Existence is pain!!