While the original certainly has an actual style, i have to say that I have no fucking clue what I'm looking at with the trump face
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looks like he's trying to make plane noises
They exaggerated Trump's characteristic pucker
An ugly as hell style (IMO), but a style nonetheless. The AI feels like a fastfood drawing.
WTF is happening to his face in the original?
Pucker. Exaggerated.
I think he's making airplane noises — maybe the artist wanted to show him as utterly oblivious, and enjoying being a plane
It's an old racist trope.
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I meant Trump's face?
Lmfao
Im so confused about people saying they prefer the ai one. Just to double triple check that were all on the same page here, the ai one is the bottom one, right??
I think the bottom one is extremely boring and the top one looks sick af.
The AI one is generic and easier to read. Some people like that 🤷♂️
I'm with you. The top one is a unique style, while the bottom one is about as generic as it gets, not to mention it has that damn yellowed background AI always uses for comics.
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I thought AI was the top one. I actually prefer the AI one in this case. in the first one the guy's face and nose is square and the the drawing is shitty. the second is clear and not distracting
God forbid an artist ever have style and good control of light. The AI one is plain boring, and has tons of shading errors. The original artists has a cool aesthetic, with lots of detail, vibrant colors and the facial expression looking at the viewer in smugness communicates a lot more than the AI one. So does the orange baby facial expression. It is all more lively and actually translates human emotion that says something about the situation. The AI one is basic and dull in comparison. So, anyways, media literacy…
Yesyesyesyesyes!
So you’re saying the first is stylized and the second is bland. We agree.
If the person holding Trump was a caricature of an Israeli many would have lost their minds and called it antisemitic. But when it is an Arab no one cares about antisemitism anymore.
The AI image looks a bit less racist. Original author made the Arab head completely flat to insinuate they have no brains.
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Might be an unpopular opinion but honestly the ai one isnt even that bad
- It's a knock-off copy of an original idea
- The copy missed an important detail, clearly intended by the original artist: Trump's face. In the original artwork Trump is pictured as oblivious to the situation, making the plane noises, acting childish. In the statistical engine generated image, no such emotion is depicted.
- Sloppy gen artifacts everywhere
- Blatant plagiarismc
For me I view it as 2 different styles entirely even though its a copy and when you see it that way I think the ai one just gets the message across (Like The Original) which is the most important for me personally. But yea your points are not invalid but the results Are still decent
I'm sorry to tell you this, but your view is incorrect.
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It is not a "style". The statistical engine has no creative intent. You cannot have a style without intention. An absence of style is not a style.
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It clearly does not get the message across that was intended by the original artist, since it lacks key elements mentioned in my previous reply. It gets 'a message' across, but it's dumbed down and lacks subtlety, as the slop often does..
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I'm sure you clearly understood the message of the original artwork, and you didn't need the gen one to somehow explain it? If not, I have bad news for you...
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The Qatari looks dead and lifeless, staring into the distance in the AI one.
The real one he looks quite sinister, like he’s pulling the strings and he knows it. Part of that is, as you mentioned, his look into the camera, and another part is the lighting the artist chose, which is entirely absent in the AI image.
I think I prefer the AI one just because I don't understand what they are going for with Trump's face in the original. I assume he's supposed to look like something specific that I'm not understanding.
I think he's supposed to be making vroom noises
Looks like his face was run over by a truck. I can't make out a face at all in the original.
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Interesting. AI cannot make proper caricatures of people's faces apparently.
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Is it that hard to criticize Arab leaders for their politics without being racist about it?
How is the depiction racist? Th entire purpose is to represent a country/culture... If you think that basal appearances are being racist when it's literally a charicature, you're still too stuck in the land of Political Correctness. Stop being a PC thinker.
In fact, I think it's depicting specifically Saudi royalty, who often show up in public wearing traditional garb, exactly as depicted. So... the comic being accurate makes you call it ... racist? Learn some damn media literacy before it's too late...
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Is this meant to be a test of this sub or a joke? Second one actually knows how to draw a face. Wtf is going on in the top? Are these mislabeled?
A statistical engine "knows" nothing.
Just like you know nothing about caricatures.
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This is Lemmy trying to decide which racist picture they like better
LMAO then you guys later complain about racism hahahsj
A copy of a racist image is still a copy, and still racist. I don't see the conflict.
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I'm seeing this shitty AI style with the thick lines everywhere. It triggers a deep rage in my lizard brain like Corporate Memphis does but it's much worse
I can't tell which is more racist
Anti-Arab racism is so normalized that you got downvoted for pointing it out
It's a charicature. If your charicature bares no stereotypes, it's not a charicature... Learn how art works before you label everything racist...
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Pretty sure his face is supposed to look like a bottle opener. It looked weird small on my phone but zooming in I think it's clear. The intent is to parallel the phrase "opening up the Middle East to America" while turning the roles on their heads, he is opening America to the Middle East.
This is an extremely simple use of visual metaphor and the AI predictably flunks hard by excreting something which pleases aesthetically but is spiritually and artistically barren.
Both are kind of racist as fuck right? Relying on anti-arabic stereotypes to try to inflame fear about this. The Qatari jet is a major problem but it's not because some sinister Arab is secretly pulling the strings, it's because foreign governments can buy influence.
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USA is racist AF with these kinds of cartoons being "normal".
Check the original artist. Not American.
How is it racist?
Cheap lazy co-opting fucks.
Hm neither one looks particularly like Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad al-Thani, and the headdress style is Saudi Arabian in both.
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