I love the one downvote. Like they're actually upset thier magic book isn't real.
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Yeah, Spiderman fans can be that way.
There's 7 now. Could be the other denominations feeling left out or the Jewish upset the Torah is represented by their even younger siblings, v1.1 and V2.0.
This is just so obvious. Why would God leave multiple versions of his own story around? Why did he not reveal himself to humans for the first million years of human existence on this planet? The only logical conclusion you can make is that humans invented Gods and not vice versa.
I’d rather have Spider-Man as a guide for my morals than that genocidal freak they call God.
You could do a lot worse than Peter. "With great power, there must come great responsibility" is an adage to live by.
- Be God
- Create humans
- Wipe out almost all life off earth in a flood because you’re not happy with the result
Yup, that’s what I call responsibility.
Actually there are many books of Spiderman which means there's more proof for Spiderman than there is for God.
Middle English: via Old French from ecclesiastical Latin biblia, from Greek (ta) biblia ‘(the) books’, from biblion ‘book’, originally a diminutive of biblos ‘papyrus, scroll’, of Semitic origin.
Little books. Booklets. Since both God and Spiderman have several books, they will have to play this out by arm wrestling or Parcheesi.
Imagine picking up a copy of a copy of a copy of partial recreation of a blog entry about Spiderman existing in the year 4000, and having a long argument over whether Alain Robert, "The Human Spider" ever existed.
Imagine picking up a copy of William Shakespeare's "Julius Caesar" in the year 4000 and insisting "This guy couldn't have been real, either".
It's curious, because I rarely see this argument aimed at the Apostles - particularly John and Peter. There's just this tacit "They're liars, it never happened" subtext. No one is brave enough to challenge the entire history of a schism in the Jewish church two millennia ago. Or to consider the apocrypha or the gnostic texts or the plethora of splinter faiths that emerged from this singular moment.
These are things that seemingly happened independent of a non-existent person, without any identifiable precursors. It's like spilling a bunch of ink claiming Lincoln wasn't real without asking who won the presidency in 1860.
In Julius Caesar a clock strikes three, and while they had hours (a fraction of the daytime, not a standard unit) they didn't have mechanical clocks.
But then while we know what happened to Julius Caesar based on historical accounts, even chronicles were politicized, which is why we don't know of Julia the Elder boffed half of Rome or was just the victim of slander. (Dramatists prefer she did while academics assume she was virtuous). So we know some of the details of the mass assassination of Julius Caesar but we only know some of the general details, which allows a lot of latitude in period recreations.
Jesus existed according to academics (based on third party accounts) but he might have just been an anti-establishment activist or a failed apocalyptic prophet. Not only did Jerusalem have those by the dozen but so did most satellites from which Rome demanded tribute. The miracles and matching Jesus up to fit the prophesies came later. Also Pontius Pilate loved crucifixion and had execution teams on standby where it was considered elsewhere in Rome a dire sentence for the worst of offenders. Pilate was the Roman equivalent of a hanging judge, so it was super-easy for a malcontent in Jerusalem to end up on the cross.
I haven't really heard that Jesus of Nazareth didn't exist as an argument against Christianity, just that he wasn't God and didn't to miracles/resurrection. There is a ton of exaggeration in all mythology texts, and some are just stories to illustrate a point. But of those that did have factual events, they are rarely a true telling.
Maybe some Israelites left Egypt during a particularly shitty time in Egypt. It is so easy to take a story of a smallish group of Israelites escaping slavery during a plague and being chased by some guards who gave up, and repeatedly embellish that story until God both hardened Pharaoh's heart and punished him for not doing right by His people (which number far more than could possibly have been living in Egypt at that time) by giving a series of plagues, and then wiping Pharaoh and his army out with a magical sea passage that closed on them. It's such a trope of all human storytelling it's been a joke for centuries.
Apply that to literally every story, think of the motivations behind those writing it, and you can get an amazing moral teacher becoming God.
But to the point of the meme, from the perspective of people in the future, there may have been a Peter Parker, but there's no reason to believe there was a Spider-man without more to go on than the comics. Likewise, religious texts.
Spider-Man. Respect the hyphen.
And he's real. And broke.
https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/22dd641b-9dec-4118-b3e8-09087b1979c7.mp4
He was always the least ego centric spider-man.
I'm Buddhist, and it's always struck me as odd that so many religious people require their text to be literally true.
If it were to be definitively proven that the person called Jesus Christ never existed as a historical person on earth, the various Christian churches and organizations would stop at nothing to attempt to discredit this. They would be furious.
On the other hand, if it were definitively proven that Siddartha Gautama, the person who will be called the Buddha, never existed as a historical person on earth, most Buddhists would find it interesting, probably even humorous, and would go on happily practicing Buddhism.
Proof that for every two Jewish people there are at least three opinions
Cthulhu definitely exists. He calls to me in my dreams.
Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!
I'm not a believer but their is decent evidence to suggest that Jesus was a real guy.
Ok, even if there was a guy named Jesus (which, like, there were thousands; that name was super popular at the time), this guy wasn't god. The meme says the bible is their proof that god exists, not that some guy named Jesus existed.
Not really. There is no contemporary evidence and all tales about him were written decades or centuries after his purported life. And even if there was a preacher named Jesus that got executed by the Romans for sedition, that still doesn't make any of the supernatural claims any more plausible.
I have a book that proves Megatron overcame oppression and led the Decepticons to Freedom!
God exists in the same way spierman does, in our hearts.
Actually, my Peter Parker location is slightly to the right of my spleen. He says he's very comfy there 🤷
Isn't Allah and God the same god?
Pretty much, but their believers get very upset if you tell them that
Well the Christians do, in my experience the Muslims are like "yeah, duh".
How hard would it actually be to write a sacred book from the ground up, following the same structure? I'm thinking in writing a cryptic book that could easily be interpreted in a lot of ways, but still feel like a real thing, and make another book series that cite it. Like Tolkien did with Elvish, but a book instead of a language.