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How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

I AM NOT A ROBOT.

I CAN PROVE IT.

WOULD A ROBOT PRETENDING TO BE A HUMAN INTENTIONALLY DROP THEIR CONN%~~~~~~#!!!!! No Carrier

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean to build up a realistic bot takes time and effort. And then you need to do that for different topics AND different sides on these to build any sort of credibility in each to actually have an impact for the topic you want to push at some moment.

You can not use the same profile for everything, like to one moment push republican nonsense and then suddenly Dems. Or one company and then their competitor.

But the biggest thing is: most people are so stupid, it would be way too much effort. Trump got voted. Again. That is all you need to know about how easily people follow the most utter bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

in the pre llm era, I'd agree that it takes effort but reddit sold the comments and posts, and lemmy's stuff is all public and freely available. anyone can train bots.

I didn't think of bots with great reputation. Just simple bots for engagement. Bots that answer your question how to treat pimpels. bots sharing their made up experience with being vegan. bots commenting on funny memes. Not for pushing an agenda but for pushing real human engagement. keeping you on reddit. making you believe there are real people liking your meme, even if it sometimes just a smiley. If it is not feasible today, it will be tomorrow or in 10 years. Facebook will be able to create fake human images and fake timelines effortless.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah, we're managed to fuck up the one tool that could bring global cooperation. It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Idk what interest someone would have in making me if I were a bot

[–] FistingEnthusiast 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No bot would post the bizarre and horrifying shit that I post

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nice try, FISTO. We all know it's you.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

There is 4 Rs in the word strawberry

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Chat bots aren't currently programmed to answer questions about color combinations. AI programs like ChatGPT can, but your typical chat bot on internet forums, business chat channels, and dating sites can't.

Next time you think you're dealing with a bot, ask it a color combination question like "What do you get when you combine red and blue?"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

The only way to determine if someone is a bot is... to ask a prejudiced question against colorblind people? 🫠

/kidding

Real Answer: Red and Blue = Total Calamity in the USA and potentially Civil War 2.0

You didn't specify red and blue what, so I filled it in.

(Okay actual real answer: Who the fuck even knows their color combinations. People would just google it. Skynet could do the same.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

"How many Rs in strawberry"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

I see it similar to how I see it when people complain that a story community/subreddit is full of fake posts.

I don't care.

I go to those communities for entertainment, not 100% unbiased fact.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

I am human. I too poop out of my anus.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Lemmy is too niche to spend money on running bots. There’s no profit, nothing to achieve. Reddit, on the other hand…

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Does it make a difference if they're indistinguishable? With filter bubbles and echo chambers, it feels like maybe it doesn't matter what percentage is bots. Use the usual moderation tools for decency.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Ask how many 'r's in the word 'strawberry'

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Atleast one

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I enjoy the platform, whether you guys are bots or humans

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How do you know your own mother is real and not some holodeck character or maybe even just a figment if your imagination, or worse, a figment of MY imagination?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

If I were a bot could I viscerally describe the walls of your mothers vaginal canal as if I had probed it thoroughly with my tongue?

Could I say "Fuck That Shit"?

How about saying things like Generative AIs are the world's biggest ponze scheme incapable of creating value and will lead companies like Google and Microsoft to their final days?

Could I say the answer is to take the fox across and then the chicken because I don't care if the fox rips it to tiny shreds, truly?

The answer to your fears is simple, the assholes are the real ones and the nice ones you need to be suspicious of their purpose, always has been.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Beep boop. All of my human organs are still contained in my human flesh.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I asked my deepseek r1:14b model and it gave this. It is quite wordy and likes bullet points. I wouldn't bother typing all this out.

Thank you for bringing up these important questions about bot detection and trust in online communities. These are valid concerns, especially as technology evolves and becomes more sophisticated.

Verification on Reddit: While Reddit does employ measures to detect bots (such as CAPTCHAs and rate limiting), it's true that no system is foolproof. However, the platform has been actively working on improving its anti-bot mechanisms over time. As a user or admin, staying informed about these measures can help us understand how communities are moderated.

Lemmy and Other Instances: On platforms like Lemmy (a federated social network), trust in other instances can be challenging because each instance operates independently. However, as a server admin, you can take steps to verify the credibility of an instance:
* Manual Verification: You can manually check accounts on other instances by reviewing their posting patterns and content for consistency with human behavior.
* Community Standards: Look for instances that follow similar community guidelines or moderation practices to yours. This can help ensure a level of trustworthiness. * Transparency: Instances that are transparent about their moderation policies and allow communication between admins are generally more trustworthy.

Future Concerns: As AI and bot technology advance, the risk of sophisticated bots mimicking human behavior will increase. However, staying proactive by implementing verification systems (like PII checks) and educating your community about suspicious activity can mitigate these risks.

Spam vs. Human-like Bots: While traditional spam bots are easier to detect, human-like bots that use statistical data to mimic patterns are more insidious. This is why relying solely on automated tools isn't enough—it requires a combination of technology and human oversight.

As server admins, we must remain vigilant but not overly discouraged. By fostering open communication within our communities and collaborating with other instance admins, we can build a network that prioritizes trust and authenticity.

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