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The team's interrogation lasted more than two hours, during which all our phones and laptops were examined, and many photos - including personal ones - were deleted. The officer threatened us with worse consequences if we approached the frontier from the Syrian side again, and said that they know everything about us and would track us down if any hidden or un-deleted photo was ever published.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

You know who else kidnapped journalists? ISIS.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 days ago

It's tough work hiding your genocides

[–] [email protected] 198 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's definitely not the behavior of someone trying to cover up war crimes.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

Come on, it's our best friends the Israeli government. At worst, maybe there were one or two war misdemeanors. Nothing to blow out of proportion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

They don't care that what they're doing is illegal because they are going to get away with it.

[–] [email protected] 98 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

This is absolutely typical of this criminal regime – and these are far more than empty threats.

Israel deliberately kills journalists, as evidenced by the fact that more journalists have been killed in Gaza in the last two years "than in the U.S. Civil War, World Wars I and II, the Korean War, the Vietnam War (including the conflicts in Cambodia and Laos), the wars in Yugoslavia in the 1990s and 2000s, and the post-9/11 war in Afghanistan, combined".

Number of Journalist and Media Workers Killed, By War Source: Watson Institute for International & Public Affairs - News Graveyards: How Dangers to War Reporters Endanger the World (full paper here)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

the chart should do a better job emphasizing the length of these wars. or use averages per year.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, the chart is not ideal.

However, my intention was simply to give an impression of how ruthlessly Israel prevents any reporting on what is actually happening in Gaza.

I think this comparison is sufficient for that purpose, especially since it puts into perspective the enormously high number of media representatives who have been killed in Gaza. I think this makes also clear that the reason for this is most likely that Israel is deliberately targeting media representatives with all means at its disposal – including murder.

But you are absolutely right: this would become even clearer if it were made more explicit that the enormous number of war killed Journalist in Gaza refers to less than two years while other wars were much longer and also more extensive.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Assigning each war an Average number of journalists killed per year (total killed divided by duration) would visualise this even more starkly.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why are the two world wars grouped together? I understand they might not be the most significant war for people in the US, but they are some of the most influencial wars in history and named World Wars for a good reason ...

I can ask the same about the VIetnam, Cambodia and Laos wars, but they seem to be in the same timeframe at least.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I'm afraid the paper doesn't give a concrete answer to that. The historical figures and the discussion of the Gaza War are used here more as background information or for comparison. The focus is mainly on the challenges of modern war reporting, with an emphasis on the wars waged by the US.

I, on the other hand, only mentioned this study to give an impression of how ruthlessly Israel treats journalists. Or even more than that: that this state is obviously deliberately and by all means preventing objective reporting — the reason seems obvious: in my opinion, Israel is committing crimes against humanity and is doing everything in its power to cover it up, apparently not even shying away from deliberately murdering journalists.

In my opinion, there is no other explanation for the absurdly high number of media representatives already killed in Gaza especially in comparison with other, much longer wars that also had significantly larger conflict zones.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

Disgusting.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The officer threatened us with worse consequences if we approached the frontier from the Syrian side again, and said that they know everything about us and would track us down if any hidden or un-deleted photo was ever published.

Honestly surprised IDF didn't just shoot them as soon as they realized they were journalists...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_the_Gaza_war

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

They are Western. Harder to dismiss them as Hamas like the 220 Palestinian journalists they've murdered

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I could have sworn they've killed BBC journalists before, but there's none on that list so you may be right.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They've banned all Western journalists from Gaza so they don't have witnesses from Corproate media. I don't think media are complaining as it makes their job of whitewashing genocide easier.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

It's getting harder and harder to frame the IDF as the victims.

Similarly, it's pretty hard to claim you're the victim when you knocked your neighbor unconscious, dragged them into the basement, and beat them with a baseball bat for the next 24 hours.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I don't know about BBC but I'm sure international and western journalists have been killed or arrested before.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ah yes, that's what an ally, who's doing nothing wrong, would do... totally.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well you know, new axis powers are forming, Isreal, China, Russia and the US.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

George Monbiot called it “The New Axis of Autocracy”

he also added Belarus, Hungary, and North Korea to the list as “minor partners”.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

Why stop at Gaza right? Israel has a lot of neighbors, might as well walk right into Iran or Lebanon and just start murdering people too!

The tell tale sign of how awful the zionists are is that they aren't picking a fight with Iran. Syria fell. Syria is starting to rebuild. Palestinians had barely any organized resistance. They only fight those who can't fight back. Almost exactly like another genocidal maniac in the 1920s-1940s.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

And yet the BBC makes no mention in this article about Israel's "genocide", no mention of their "apartheid", and the only result my ctrl-f for "crime" (aiming to detect "war crimes") was one of the promotional links to a different article where they invited "both sides" to argue in a debate, as though it's two equal sides.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

That had to be absolutely terrifying, which I’m sure was the goal. There is not one IOF soldier that is innocent. They need to be put down, the lot of them. I long for a day where there is a long wait at the gallows for each and every one of them. Hanging them would be too kind.

Fuck Israel.

Sincerely,

A now non-practicing Jew.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Someone needs to start giving these journalists guns so they can defend themselves.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

How about someone needs to stop giving these bullies guns so that they can stop attacking others.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

No

Journalists are not fighters, it's kind of the point. They are (or are supposed to be) neutral observers that can semi freely walk around on the lines without being shot so that they can give an honest account of the events as they unfold.

Israel and states alike it aren't very interested in the truth as the truth is that they are committing genocide, hence them not just banning journalists, and outright murdering them whenever they can get away with it.

I'm thinking that literally the only reason that these journalists are still alive is that they were more trouble dead than alive and that threat of murdering them or their families if they dare to publish anything of the deleted pictures is to be taken highly serious as Israeli security services have no problem at all (and usually gets away) with extrajudicial executions on foreign soil.

The one thing that just outrages me right now is Europe's stance on this. The US I understand; they gave their own dictatorial regime and they have enough propaganda channels to keep the populace mostly unaware of any of this, or just feed them enough lies that they think the genocide is just normal warfare and a normal reaction to the evil Arabs or something.

Europe, however, doesn't have this and should fucking know better. Fucking Germany should fucking know better than this, they should recognize a fascist state, yet somehow they are almost afraid of Israel, afraid of being painted as fascists again.

Stop being cowards, stand up for what's right, stand at the right side of history, if just for once!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

know everything about us and would track us down if any hidden or un-deleted photo was ever published.

"if you go back to your country and post anything we will murder you"

Personally I'd just use encrypted backups or data recovery and post literally everything I could, possibly with a taunt calling out the coward who can only threaten people when backed up by billions in military funding and personnel.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And then you'd get assassinated.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Cool.

The more they focus on trying to kill me, the less resources they have to kill some Palestinian.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

They keep saying that word. I think it does not mean what they think it means.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

I sure hope they had multiple cloud backups.