Damn, that might be one of the dumbest things I've read today
Confidently Incorrect
When people are way too smug about their wrong answer.
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Most of today still remains. Give it time.
It's nearly midnight here. Still dumb.
In a sense, it is semantics. It's mathematically wrong but it's correct in terms of messaging. If you say that prices increased by 100%, then decreased by 50%, to a lot of people it sounds like they are still higher than the original.
It's sort of like how the 1/3 pound burger failed in America because people thought it was smaller than the equally priced 1/4 pound burger.
People are dumb is the point.
And if there is one competency Trump has, it's communicating to dumb people.
It might be correct in a technical sense but it's first and foremost misleading. If something costs $150 and the seller offers for the price to come down 50%, you'd rightfully expect the price to be $75, not $100. The seller could argue that it's some 50% markup being removed but would you believe that to be a genuine explanation, or that the seller is trying to mislead or scam you?
I'm pretty sure we're saying the same thing
Mostly yes, but I take issue with the statement that it's "correct in terms of messaging". In short, I'd say that it's technically correct but incorrect in terms of messaging as pretty much everyone would understand the wrong message.
But being misleading is very much in character for Trump.
It's also not correct even in a technical sense. For what that's worth. It's a made up number to sound really big and impressive, even if it is not true in any sense.
Republicans have consciously targeted a fifth grade educational level for decades now. Trump's innovation was targeting a third grade level.
Not for long. Y’see, when you roll back regulations and oversight for the USDA, you end up with large and costly recalls. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/recall/cdc-fda-eggs-salmonella-recall-rcna211610
Obviously you should just get rid of the CDC and FDA then. No recalls, no problem!
Ah, yes. The 2020 classic covid server shift. No need to distort what you don’t report!
I would say 'don't give them ideas', but I'm pretty sure that's already in the works.
All this means is that Trump had eggs for breakfast that day.
It was probably about 30 egg mcmuffins.
We all know how much Tubby Tiny Hands loves his McD's.
I just had breakfast at Tony T's Coney Island and they paid me $36 to eat a three egg omelette. Of course I had to pay for coffee.
The coffee was also cursed.
The coffee was $50
So if I eat 3 eggs that should subsidize one (1) avocado toast(s). Hold on, I think I finally got agrip of these bootstraps!
Stupidity highlighted in the post aside - that's not my country, is it true that eggs now cost $2 when they used to be $8?
It's a lie. It's always a lie.
$3.99 here. I can almost guarantee what happened to drop the price is that they stopped testing for bird flu. Milk also halved in price at the same time. I haven't seen milk this cheap in 20+ years.
😂 milk/eggs are the same price here in my state. You guys were/are just getting fucked by standard capitalist behaviors. Nothing has fundamentally changed this year for those price drops.
I assure you testing for bird flu in no way results in a 20% price drop, let alone whats being claimed by this admin. Testing is dirt cheap likely less than a fraction of a cent per egg.
Tests don't cost money. Positive tests cost money, because then you have to kill a bunch of chickens to stop the spread of the disease. Stymieing the spread of bird flu requires both higher egg prices and costly culling for farmers. If the admin stops testing, egg prices come down because farmers can't be told to cull chickens which they don't know are sick. So egg prices come down. But also bird flu spreads out of control and we might create a new pandemic.
Bird flu is very deadly for chickens. Testing or not testing doesn't affect mortality rate. It's 75%-100% either way.
Not testing would mean they are not culling before it spreads therefore more dead chickens and fewer eggs.
This is not the same as testing cows where there is much lower mortality rate. In cows it results in lower milk production.
That's not normal market behavior, something changed.
Dude, ive literally been in meetings where were it was decided to increase prices by 80% based on the zipcode you were from.
It absolutely is normal market behavior. These fuckers pull this kind of shit all the time. Hell during trumps last admin they killed some worker pay thing and immediately businesses gave a bonus to workers that was worth a fraction of what the bill would have given workers as a ploy.
Hell in this thread alone you can see the massive variability of prices based on regions and no, its not because of mysterious market forces. You dont go from 8 to 2 dollars in a couple months due to market forces for a product that has a lead time of 3-4 months (the time it takes for a chicken to mature and produce eggs)
What has happened here is essentially: flu killed off a truck load of chickens, prices sky rocketted due to supply/demand and farmers redirecting to chicken production to restore the supply. Then as the chickens matured prices stabalized back down. And during this period middle men jacked up the prices because they had cover of a supply issue to blame beyond what the reality dictated.
But this took awhile to occur and started well before this admin. Has nothing to do with testing as you asserted with 100% confidence, in fact trsting is how we managed to limited the damage. Nor does it justify 12.99/dozen prices in one region and 4 in another were both regions magically reverted by 50+% to the baseline.
actually that's quite normal if something like a disease were to come through a region. The variability in price by region is inherent in the deterioration of all food stuffs. It's why avocados are cheaper in the SW and oranges are cheaper in the SE. Eggs are also regional, but they're in every region. This is why there's wildly different prices in eggs, because bird flu might be wreaking havoc 2 states over, but isn't a big deal where you live.
That being said, eggs dropping 50% and milk by more than 100% in any one market? That is unusual market behavior.
Sigh, please stop talking you don't know what you're talking about.
Here are where eggs are produced in the US
The cost of producing/shipping eggs is basically constant. For example: if I ship go from penn to NYC, and then distribute to the rural areas from the nyc hub. Its cheaper to deliver to the city than the rural areas.
And yet you'll see prices in NYC are much higher (probably where that $12 figure came from) than the rural areas.
So effectively our production, shipping, real estate, and labor costs are effectively constant in both regions and yet both experience a 200% price increases due to a supply shortage? Sorry fam, but the price isnt reflecting the cost to produce. Its reflecting what businesses think they can get away with.
The fact is prices were jacked up as high as they could get away with for local markets while they had the cover of a supply shortage. And in no way reflects the cost of the actual disruption, and have nothing to do with your absurd original claim about testing or anything to do with market forces unless you count unrestrained greed as a market force.
The USDA covered farmers for their loss of chickens/production the farmers didnt see a fucking penny of these price increases.
Edit: just to be clear, im not saying variability based on region doesnt make sense. Im asserting that in the case of a disruption in production you'd see a constant price increase across the board, since only production was impacted. So NYC would see $0.05 and so would a town in northern NY.
What you absolutely would not see is a 100%+ hike in prices across the board.
Except that that's not how market adjustments work, buddy. They never go down that abruptly, pal. They adjust slowly to find the happy medium that maximizes profits, guy. That big of a drop in that short of a time isn't a market adjustment, friendo. You've got a lot to learn before you start talking down to people, champ.
Food safety inspection (including bird flu testing) does not make up that much of the cost of eggs.
Capitalists are passing their fuckup costs in to you. A shitload if birds died any you paid to float them until new birds were ready. Why is this so hard to understand? Why are you subtly astroturfing this “actually it’s Biden’s fault because they did egg testing” shit? Fuck off with this neocon propaganda.
It is Biden's "fault", in that testing for bird flu requires farmers to cull chickens (many of which would test negative) in order to stop the spread of the disease. This would result in an egg shortage, and therefore a price increase. This is unfortunate for egg prices, but is necessary to protect the egg supply long term and to ensure the bird flu doesn't jump to humans and kill us all. But Biden didn't order this, so much as he simply allowed existing government agencies to do their jobs.
Additionally, we should give the Biden admin credit for increasing the power of the FTC to investigate more possible instances of collusion and price fixing, like what may have happened with eggs.
If Trump stops bird flu testing, we would very much expect egg prices to come down - at the expense of allowing bird flu to run rampant.
I feel like i have not seen milk move in price since the start of covid. Before covid I could get it for $3 at costco and $4 in stores. Now it's been about $5-$6 ever since.
In NY, a dozen has come down to $6.99 from $12.99 in March. They were ~$5.99 per dozen under Biden when MAGA could not shut up about them.
atm $3.80/dozen where i'm at.
Ok and just confirming, these same eggs- brand, size, quality - used to cost like a lot more a couple months ago? Where I live prices went up... Stayed there
was about double two months ago. was about half as much a year ago
The price of salmonella has come down 400 percent.
Salmonella outbreak linked to eggs sickens dozens of people across 7 states
More evidence for why he threatened to sue if someone leaks his SAT scores.
These people learned math from fox news.
Wow, so you're telling me the idiots still using the Nazi bird site aren't very smart?
Wait until they abolish public education, and kids are either homeschooled or go to work. Theyll make Idiocracy look like Mensa.