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"This is the behavior of a crazy person.

Trump is a massive failure as president. He has allowed a genocidal monster to take over the foreign policy of the United States.

Trump has permitted Netanyahu to drag America to the threshold of war with Iran."

Source by Paul Craig Roberts, Institute for Political Economy

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Same thing we did when netanyahu was the de facto president last year: Speak truth, get ignored at best and met with hostility most of the time.

[–] aubeynarf 18 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

This was one of the guys who spent every day agitating against Harris. Kudos, bro!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

Great job proving their point.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Like so. Hostility for being against genocide.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's not hostility for being against genocide.

It's hostility for ignoring the genocide you have triggered back in the US. For people who were supposedly against genocide, you sure did help trump get elected, which made the thing you supposedly "care" about, about 100 times worse.

Hope your moral righteousness can stop ICE. But we already saw how it helped the Palestinians, so I doubt it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (24 children)

It’s not hostility for being against genocide.

Bullshit.

It’s hostility for ignoring the genocide you have triggered back in the US. For people who were supposedly against genocide, you sure did help trump get elected, which made the thing you supposedly “care” about, about 100 times worse.

You just want someone to blame now that your second favorite candidate is carrying out your only policy for you. If people who don't adore everything netanyahu does weren't worth listening to, you don't get to blame us when what we tried to warn you would happen happens.

Hope your moral righteousness can stop ICE.

Your moral cowardice made this happen.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

You know what made this happen is a bunch of so-called leftists who make voting for the President (or even worse, withholding their vote) their only political act.

We could change the world if we’d unite and get involved in primaries and get out and inspire and educate. But instead we sit at our computers and shitpost and laud our own supposed moral superiority and deride other leftists who are only slightly different than us while everything in the real world just gets incrementally worse and worse.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh are you one of the little genocide lovers?

We’ve all seen the data. It wasn’t the anti-genocide side who made you lose, so don’t try to blame us for your fetish.

[–] aubeynarf 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

no, you dope. I have the maturity to understand that fighting against Trump’s opponents means Trump wins. Trump is worse genocide than Harris ever would have been.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So, what's the next atrocity we're not going to be allowed to criticize because centrists all love it?

[–] aubeynarf 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

if you keep agitating for far right fascists to be in power I’m sure it will be worse

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

centrists sure love to mischaracterize opposition to their genocide as support for their close second choice.

[–] aubeynarf 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

OMG you got me so hard!!! Great way to cope with the outcome of your actions.

trying to stick the “genocide” label on anything that’s not your fringe morally-pure choice (if you can even name a choice instead of being anti-everything) will surely result in more effective results!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

trying to stick the “genocide” label on anything that’s not your fringe morally-pure choice

Should have known you're a genocide denialist.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Biden publicly described himself as a Zionist and supported genocide while wagging his finger. Trump and his cabinet are even worse -- as expected. I mean a suggestion to evict (kill?) the residents and turn it into a resort is beyond reason.

I hope we don't get into war with Iran. Between the Republicans and Democrats that are legally bribed by aipac I think we're screwed either way.

Hopefully that 400 million dollar jet Qatar bribed Trump with gives him pause about going to war. His money making schemes are starting to conflict and he is very impulsive, so it's hard to tell what's next.

[–] aubeynarf 6 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

He did not “support genocide”, stop lying.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Biden continued shipping weapons to a country that was (and still is) actively engaged in genocide. If that doesn’t meet your definition of “supporting genocide”, then what does?

Edit: replaced the vague “he” with the more specific “Biden” at the beginning of the post.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

He was the biggest enabler of it, that’s support. The man literally bypassed congress to directly ship weapons to Israel and continued to support them until the bitter end.

Maybe if instead of taking bribes from AIPAC he should have dropped out earlier and let someone else run.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

He sold weapons that everyone, even a pudding-brained mummy like biden, knew were being used to commit genocide. In contravention of the Leahy law.

That's support for genocide.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait another month and wave some signs ?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

Witty signs no less. To show that despite the apparent severity of the state of the world, they do have a sense of humour.

They might as well ban all guns now. I was willing to go along with this weekly(?) school shooting schedule as long as that meant they would actually use the guns when the time came. But now that the time has come, all those kids seem to have died for nothing.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

The same thing we did when Israel was commiting genocide, talk about it. It's what got TikTok censored by Congress. It's what costs politicians jobs by being against genocide.

But I guess it's bad now since Trump is the one doing it. Murder is bad when red team does it, it's just the way the world works when blue team does it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

None of this relationship with Israel is new to the US.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

The answer to the problem is certainly not the Democrats, who wholesale supported this genocide for over a year.

Both genocidal parties, and the genocidal capitalist system, must be torn down.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)


For the X-teenth time:
Eternal war, working for the same oligarchs that sponsor both wings, banks and multinationals and unconditional support for the genociders is BIPARTISAN and always was.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This doesn't change the fact that 47 is the current problem, and is the one currently talking about nuclear war. No matter how bad Biden would have been on this issue, he is currently irrelevant.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

You don't get it. The united snake has it's own interests in support israel

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

Americans when Democrats do the thing:

Americans when Republicans do the thing:

More seriously what Americans should have done to get a president not in the pocket of mass murderer Netanyahu was get the Democrats to actually represent their constituents, but lesser evil politics prevailed and now we're here. If you want a president not in the pocket of mass murderer Netanyahu now you'll have to overthrow Trump and install one yourself.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

He's in the pocket of a lot of people.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

not like the alternative wasn't in his pocket

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

He has allowed a genocidal monster to take over the foreign policy of the United States.

Disgusting revisionism. Trying to pretend this started with Trump when the Democrats were giving full support to over a year of full scale genocide.

[–] aubeynarf 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Next time don’t spend all your effort talking shit about Trump’s opponent?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Next time listen when people try to warn you that you're making a mistake.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Why didn’t you say anything when Biden was doing the same thing?

99% of Americans will simply never see that 99% of politicians support Netanyahu and his killing of children across the Middle East.

America, the whole of it, supports genocide.

But nah, democrats will call me a tankie and say some shit about who I voted for, and never look in the mirror once.

Americans are only ever going to care after every child is dead. That’s our liberal tradition. Supporting liberation only if it isn’t in the present day.

Fuck liberals, fuck democrats and fuck America.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

We're talking about nuclear war right now.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

We end his stolen, illegitimate presidency any way we can.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Can we raid the white house and kill trump yet? Pleaaaase?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Well we don’t do shit about any other nonsense. So, nothing?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

General Strike, now!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

US system requires deep reform. Both parties controlled by oligarchs that favor israel.

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