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We're entirely fucked, and this seems to be the only thread about it, it's not gotten much activity. Either people are writing their paragraphs (thanks for not using AI to make your opinions for you), or we're all feeling about as motivated as I am right now (or less so?) or people just aren't going to engage....
I've never felt worse for my country than I do today, and I thought it couldn't get worse than yesterday, at least tomorrow is looking up right?
For me, this was inevitable so can only shrug.
Personally I would like a revolution resembling Ukraine, but not possible. And even if there were, most of the population does not understand democracy needs paper ballots counted properly, with recounts. So any revolution will ultimately be more of the same later.
Some countries are simply not cut out for democracy, and I am grateful things as less bad than I imaged. At least there are no official death camps in this bill.
I can only sigh and hope to keep out of political prison for a few more years ; but realistically will probably be arrested this or next year trying to protect neighbors .
Yep. We had a solid 4 years for USA to figure some shit. Global pandemic to nail it home too. We didn't.
Republicans have been at this for decades. First round of Trump should have been enough. It wasn't. Now Republicans have full control.
You can only warn people for so many years. We are past that point. Everyone that refused to listen are now going to get what their wilful ignorance wanted.
The Democratic Party shares equal blame. I think my more recent posts the last few years criticizes them without mentioning the Republicans because when trying reform sinners one does not try to save the devil too.
But all my issues with them are moot if most of the country uses private companies to decide primaries and elections without oversight. And when most of the population have no issues with any of that.
But like a little child I still hoped, and offered advice and tried to educate. Now, the time for such things are done.
I’m pretty sure the democrats will win by a landslide next year, and there may even be a democratic president, but it will not change facts on the ground. It’s going to be a bad next few decades
The Democratic Party shares equal blame.
Stop. Just stop.
It's old. It's stupid. It's profoundly ignorant.
Just stop.
Oh, I have stopped, as of today I am no longer engaging this debate. Hopefully this takes and I don’t spend energy while I figure out what to do
Some countries are simply not cut out for democracy
I think the U.S. is too large with too many cultural differences by region to maintain a democracy in the long run. Ideally we would balkanize, with the blue states going their own way and forming their own democracies. Northeast blue state democracy. West coast blue state democracy.
I have no interest in continuing to try to maintain a democracy with low IQ fascist domestic terrorists anymore. It clearly isn't working.
At least there are no official death camps in this bill.
Sorry to be a downer, but ICE's funding is now high enough that one of the few plausible explanations for it is that they plan to create concentration camps of immigrants (and, hey, well we have all this money and space, maybe just all other undesirables too...?)
Those are unofficial death camps. Maybe.
I put care and effort into the word ‘official’.
We were fucked when he got elected, we're just watching it all play out. Nothing has changed and it will just keep getting worse, it's all its ever done.
Yeah, most of us paying attention felt these feelings back in November of last year. The rest of the world, and those not paying close attention, are still catching up in little bursts.
America is being dismantled and destroyed by a convicted criminal being backed by a minority of powerful (and powerfully stupid) people all across the nation.
They haven't won yet, for the record... But they are winning, and millions of people without wealth will pay for all of this. Me, you, just about everyone reading this... We will all be impacted while the wealthy do nothing but gain more wealth and power.
I imagine it's a matter of time before an actual threat of civil war begins to bubble up. There are too many people that oppose what's going on. America has finally been defeated by it's enemies, and only those paying attention understand this.
I guess Putin is the real victor in all of this. His stooge has done well. Fuck every traitorous member of the GOP for allowing this.
I mean, there might be just a many people in full on panic, bug out mode.
Something like this is complex, which means people aren't going to react to it until they start actually seeing the effects. And when they do, judging by how uninformed most Americans are, they won't know what things, like this, resulted in their current state of affairs. And a large portion of our populace who subscribes to propaganda networks will be made to believe it wasn't the GOP that did it.
I'm not saying there's going to be a cataclysm-level event and all of a sudden America ceases to exist. But this country, as we've always known it, is over. And our quality of life is going to steeply decline. And that decline will be steeper the poorer you are.
We aren't crawling out of this hole for a long time, if at all. Prepare yourself to watch this nation steadily decline for the remainder of our lives.
It's tough but what is there to say? Oh we got fucked again? Kind of feel like a parrot with one phrase at this point lol. I think most people are more or less speechless.
You know that quiet pause a dog takes before trying to bite your face off? The US keeps taking that pause. At some point a twig is going break during that pause, and we're going to have a right mess on our hands.
ICE just became the unofficial 5th branch of the military, there aren't words
At least if they were part of the military they'd be bound by the ucmj
6th or 7th, isn't it?
Only if you're counting the Coast Guard and Space Force (and maybe others I might be forgetting). So don't do that, it would make Donjuanme wrong.
The enshittification of the nation continues. $200 billion more to ICE among many other terrible things.
On the bright side:
The vote was 51-50, with Vice President JD Vance breaking a tie after three Republicans joined all Democrats in opposing the legislation
The Democracts actually stood against Trump.
Hold up... Some republicans stood up to trump/didn't vote party lines? That's surprising!
If you can emigrate, now's the time.
If you can't, now's the time to buy guns and ammo.
This, coupled with the corrupt Supreme Court deciding presidents are above the law and that courts can't stop unlawful executive orders, means this nation's collapse is imminent.
If you can leave, seriously consider it.
How? Where?
I'm one of the privileged people to have studied engineering and was able to move to Germany relatively easily (due largely to luck and some good planning). If you qualify for an EU Blue Card that may be an easy path towards a new life outside of the US.
If you are in college or younger it's easy to start making plans to give you your best chances of success. And if you're retired, approaching retirement, self-employed, or something akin to a digital nomad you should have less problems moving somewhere close like Canada or Mexico.
Not saying it's easy, but there are paths. The cool thing about borders and countries is they're all made up. French people need the same goods and services as Americans (with variation of course) and thus most labor is needed in most places. With declining birth rates nearly everywhere, the smartest countries are opening their borders to immigrants or have been open for a long time.
And the judicial branch of government is officially dead.
Yup.
Stripped of power to keep a mad king in check.
Now we pull up a seat and watch this nation collapse in realtime.
One of the more notable was a lopsided 99-1 vote to kill a provision in the package — written by Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, the chair of the Commerce Committee — to establish a 10-year moratorium on state and local artificial intelligence regulations
Well, at least they offered a warm towelette while fucking everyone but the ultra wealthy.
Everyone hates Rafael Cruz's fucking guts
Goddamn, America
RIP
Relevant username.
The rich are laughing at the idiot poor people who think this helps them
I saw. News is still more fixated on the Medicaid cuts and rural hospital closures, rather than the ICE part. The rich people getting tax cuts extended was obviously going to happen either way, though.
rural hospital closures
Less MAGAts is a good thing. But I do feel for the non-MAGAts that need those hospitals.
I mean, I felt the same urge but at the end of the day we shouldn't be pro-death. They might paint us that way, but doesn't mean we should cheer the death of rural communities, lol
I’m actually a huge fan of death. People don’t change their minds generally. They just die. We make progress one funeral at a time.
Trump taking a big beautiful shit on poor people and still causing the debt to go up. MAGAts must be proud.
Are there protests? Are people lining up in DC? I feel like the left is just broken and disorganized and losing on every front.
Are there protests?
There are protests near me. I'll probably go on Friday. Check out what's near you: https://www.mobilize.us/
The next protest will be the one! So long as nobody gives Trump a reason to make a mean tweet about the protests and there are at least 6 viral signs held up, he's done for this time
I do feel like protests need to transition from "We're here with signs" to "No more labor until these problems are addressed," but I don't know how to get from here to there.
A lot more people unemployed and un-homed. We are altogether still way too comfortable. I still have way too many gadgets that facilitate escaping.
Nah were waiting for someone else to do something.
LET THEM EAT ^return2ozma's^ CAKE ^day^
Hah! Thanks!
This is the world laughing at you…
My mother is in her late 60s and is diabetic and needs Medicare for her insulin, this is going to killer and countless others.
I didn't have any hope to shatter.