Doing this would get a person on the sex offender registry in my state.
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"This matter is under investigation," the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said in a statement.
"We've investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing."
It's always the ones you most expect.
Daily reminder to all ICE agents. By signing up for ICE, you have signed yourself up for a lifetime of fear and criminal liability. There are Nazi concentration camp guards that were tried for their crimes in their 90s. There is no statute of limitations on crimes against humanity. Your names are recorded; your deeds are known. And you will face justice for your crimes. And do not count on a blanket pardon saving you. Crimes against humanity are violations of international law that cannot be pardoned.
I don't think there are any ICE agents on Lemmy, nor do I think they're the kind of people who think about consequences.
Unfortunately there are some users on Lemmy very ready to see ICE's new budget justify political deportations. But yeah, I don't think any of them would have any cognitive dissonance about it.
So that's a registry worthy crime, right?
Peeing in public gets you put on the sex offender list? The fuck kinda laws is that haha.
"ICE agents unlawfully trespassed ERUSD school grounds and did not exercise sound and respectful judgment with the risk of exposing themselves to minors and committing a public offense under California law."
Yeah, they should be in a registry, and lose their jobs. Anything less would be special treatment and a double-standard, since they were clearly breaking multiple laws.
Most (proper laws) laws require intent. Unless they purposely exposed themselves… Peeing in a corner exposes nothing and doesn’t fit any definition of “intent”. Why would this suddenly be any different?
These blanket laws are usually to get vagrants being in an alley.
It’s not a double standard, it’s a blanket law that shouldn’t exist to begin with lmfao.
Pissing in public shouldn’t net you a sex offender list ANYWHERE, where is the intent to expose to someone else or a minor? But bloviate about double standards I guess… yeesh lmfao.
It's not illegal to piss outside in California. It's illegal to create a nuisance to public health like leaving a puddle of piss on a paved playground, and it's illegal to piss "lewdly" which doesn't just mean sexual it includes when you did it right in front of the security camera trying to offend the liberal teachers who won't let you in the building and show them how above the law you are.
Most (proper laws) laws require intent.
Some laws are "strict liability". I think some sex crimes are, for example
This is the same place that charges criminals for murder that police do yeah…?
Maybe the issue is the basis of the laws in your country to even begin with…?
These aren’t normal laws in other countries fyi.
The idea originated in Britain, per Wikipedia. This isn't a uniquely American problem
You can make an argument that we shouldn't have inherited Britain's legal system, but that's a pretty big argument
Welcome to the USA!
If he's at a school then yes that's exact how the law works.
Intent matters for laws that are meant to be used properly.
Unless they intentionally exposed themselves, pissing in public shouldn’t net you a sex offenders list standing.
I actually went to high school in Michigan and one of my classmates almost got on the list for mooning some girls from the back window of a friends car on the parking lot. His parents paid a shit ton for lawyers to make it go away otherwise he wouldn‘t have been able to go to College.
The mooning in question was him exposing maybe the top 2 inches of his buttcrack, no spreading his cheeks or showing any male sex organs.
I've heard getting caught peeing in the woods in the middle of the night in some places can get you on the list
I've never been in the USA, but my cousin lives there, so she had legal practice connected to softening terms or whatever, I don't remember, for such sex offenders.
Say, there was a story when a guy decided to take a shit on the car of someone who insulted him, and didn't see that there was a kid in that car. So the intended offense was much less than what, eh, he actually got.
For these HEROES? Paid vacation until the public forgets. And maybe a promotion afterward. Ohh, and don't forget backpay.
Is this at a high school or a preschool?
Also how is it "alleged" if there's literally photo and video proof right in front of me?
I believe reporters could get sued if they state that someone committed a crime before they are found guilty, even when it's very clear they did it.
It is a high school next to an elementary school with a playground for preschoolers. The video shows the men walking up to the containers and apparently urinating, but you cannot specifically see that that is what they are doing. The staff at the school however did see that they were urinating.
That's wild
I mean outside of how pissing outside on a school would land any of us on a list...how absolutely disrespectful and unprofessional for a public servant to piss outside at a school during the school day.
That's not how to conduct yourself in society....it's how I imagine a bunch of disrespectful soldiers might treat the citizens of an invaded country they look down on.
That is a lot of white panel vans pulling into a school.
Pedos exposing themselves.
In this case I think it might just be complete disdain for basic human dignity.
I’m sure both those ICE Agents will be promoted.
At the least, suspended with pay while an internal investigation finds no wrongdoing.
If anyone else did this, they'd be labeled as a pedophile and prosecuted for indecent exposure/public urination. Especially for doing it on campus, and in possible view of small children
Get em all on the sex offender registry
there's no way some of them (or lots of them) aren't already on it
I wouldn’t be surprised to learn if they use the sex offender registry to recruit for ICE
Literally acting like feral dogs.
I hope these ICE agents, who were undeniably illegally urinating on school property, get what they deserve. This is absolutely disgusting and unacceptable.
A 10 year old black boy in Mississippi was arrested and prosecuted for doing that behind the car while his mother was at an appointment
I'm surprised they didn't break into the library to do that to a copy of the Constitution.
They prefer pissing and shitting on the real thing.
Get some samples and send it off to a lab or one of those DNA Family Tree sites.