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The story began in early 2017, when Abigail Piland was born without any obvious problems. But when the midwife who helped deliver her checked back the next day, Abigail didn’t look healthy. The midwife told mother Rachel Piland to take the child to a hospital because the baby “could suffer brain damage or die if not properly cared for.”

Rachel refused, insisting “God makes no mistakes.”

Days later, Abigail was dead. (Rachel and her husband Joshua then prayed for Abigail’s resurrection. Surprise: That didn’t work, either.)

A medical examiner later attributed the death to “unconjugated hyperbilirubinemia and kernicterus,” both jaundice-related problems that were treatable. Abigail never had the chance to see a doctor when blood was coming out of her mouth, or when she wasn’t eating, or when her skin became further discolored. All because her parents put more trust in God than someone who could actually help.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Amazing. They believe in God, they pray for their babies health, and when He sends the midwife to save the baby, they ignore His sign.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Do you think God stays in heaven because humans turned out to be far too irritating and self-destructive to be worth dealing with?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

For a more serious answer (from someone who still doesn't believe, especially in the moronic sky daddy of christians)... sort of. God kicked humans out of the garden of eden (and his presence) because humans accepted the gift of knowledge.

Just like how most parents aren't going to solve all of your problems once you're shipped off to college, God's not going to do shit for us. We've been specifically told as much, so religous people constantly praying and expecting miracles is particularly hilarous and pathetic to me. Braindead fools completely ignoring their own teachings.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What's the religious equivalent of taking all your laundry home on the holidays so your mother can do it for you? We need that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

No, that would be believing what ever "moral" BS your pastor imagines and spouts over the pulpit. We need FEWER people letting someone else do their thinking for them, not more...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

this site should be banned. It's posting crypto "news" aka misinformation after each of their posts. They use Murder Porn to get eyes on their site so they can push their bs crypto nonsense on to their visitors.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why should it be banned just because you don't like crypto?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They are literally advertising speculative blockchain products

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Ok let me rephrase

They are literally advertising scams

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Crypto scams exist, yes, but crypto itself is not a scam. I'll admit I didn't dig deep into the website but from what I saw they were mainly talking about BTC, which isn't a scam coin.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 days ago (4 children)

These stupid fucks were mentioned on the Friendly Athiest blog and podcast earlier this year. Look it up. It's a good read / listen.

In a statement read in court, Rachel’s brother, Joel Kerr, said the Pilands “chose their beliefs over their children.” He asked for sentences “sufficiently long that (the couple) can no longer bring life into the world just to snuff it out.”

Monsters. Religion kills. Why do you think abortion is illegal for women who have been raped? Religion.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

sentences “sufficiently long that (the couple) can no longer bring life into the world just to snuff it out.”

Now that sounds like justice to me.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

And they claim "God makes no mistakes."

Well, they are the mistakes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Interestingly the brother isn't fanatical which would seem to suggest that the husband was the one that got Rachel involved in it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

A sentence of menopause in prison is an amazing idea.

[–] [email protected] 104 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"God makes no mistakes, except doctors and modern medicine."

A just God wouldn't give an innocent child to people like that.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 3 days ago (2 children)

God appears to have made innumerable mistakes since the dawn of time by my reckoning.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm reading a comment from one of them right now. Hahaha, got em!

Oh no, in reading my own comment and now I'm God's mistake toooooooooooooo^oooooooooooo!!!!!^

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 days ago (8 children)

How liberating it must be to just dump everything single thing on "god's will", and have to worry about nothing, ever.

It's fucking depressing... This isn't even about religion, it's about untreated, likely even undiagnosed, mental illness.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is why religion is dangerous.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 3 days ago

Just one of many reasons.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Maybe they’ll find god in prison.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There is a family guy episode about something similar. Stewie becomes friends with another kid from a very religious family. The kid has cancer and the parents refuse to get treatment and prefer to pray the cancer away. Crazy that these people actually exist. Though I can’t say that I am surprised…

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago (18 children)

Is it a good time to discuss parenting licence?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like a way to prevent "undesirable" people from having children. Just so, so wide open to abuse.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yea I don't really believe in its applicability too but doesn't prevent me from wishing it in a more "ideal" form despite being very dangerously parallel to eugenics. It is just hard to think of anything else when you read a news about a baby dying while vomiting blood.

But about the topic of abuse, everything is open to abuse by billionaires including law, but we still have them.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

Honestly the eugenics issues aside the idea of the state regulating one of the most basic facets of humanity disgusts me.

What does that look like, forced birth control, forced abstinence, forced abortions? Sounds like a dystopian hell

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago

No. There's no ethical way to implement something like that. Even if there was, it's ripe for abuse by the wrong administration.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Not parenting licenses, but well funded child protective services. Investigations into claims. Serious monitoring of home schoolers.

As I have been trying to get ANYONE to listen to for the past year, for example, the state of Oklahoma actively does not investigate child welfare cases (except occasionally to take away native or Black children.)

The internal phone system at Oklahoma DHS is NOT WORKING. They have the incorrect numbers for several state agencies, and have been forwarding reports intended for the police to a very confused Hispanic man. This is absolutely insane and should be newsworthy, but no one gives a shit.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Religion is dangerous on many levels because it is make-believe taken as reality.

This is just one rather simple example of how fucking stupid it is that people still spread and maintain that oldest of lies.

The only good thing about religion is that all the nutjobs believing in it would likely be the ones also susceptible to other ideologies, manipulations and political groupings in oder to be "part of something greater"... and looking at the world I regard the chances of them getting sucked into something that would actually be good for them and World.... as very slim.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The great thing is; you can be a christian and a fascist! At the same time!

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[–] imposedsensation 5 points 2 days ago

That site is so littered with obnoxious ads that I have trouble taking it seriously.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Why would the Lord want you to just let your kid die? Absolutely brainless.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It is because it/he/she/them "acts in mysterious ways"

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A lot of people find Jesus in prison. I don't know what Jesus is in there for, but as lot of people say he is.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Jesus was sentenced to life without parole for disorderly conduct while brown.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

The system will go easy on them, being white, Christian, and Conservative. They'll do a few months. Then they'll have another kid, because bible.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The sentencing is in the article. 20-45 years, largely because they showed no remorse and claimed they would do it again

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Damn those atheist baby killers at planned parenthood! Taking good jobs from pious christians!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

Man, this kinda shit always just makes me so sad :(

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Don't talk about it too much if you don't want it becoming such a widespread story that it gets Trump to pardon them.

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