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[–] [email protected] 216 points 1 year ago (2 children)

~~clean living~~

Can't afford $16 + tip for a drink

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They mention cost of living a lot in the article. They also point out that there's way lower drug use. On top of cost of living I bet a lot of people are getting their escapism from games and Internet instead.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

drugs have also gotten more expensive :(

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

An ounce of weed is like $50 these days, a fraction of when I was a teenager. Just blaze.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Weed is cheap as hell in Michigan. I wish it was true in Illinois. I'm in Indiana, where it's illegal, but getting weed from Illinois is a 30-minute drive. However, it's much more expensive and you're limited to 14 grams as a non-state resident. Getting weed from Michigan is much, much cheaper and there's no limit, but it is a 5-hour drive through Indiana for me and I'm not driving that far back through Indiana with a shit ton of weed in my car.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I think the fact that almost anything might be laced with a lethal dose of fentanyl these days could also be a contributor. A lot of drugs are just white powder… makes it hard to know what’s in it in a party setting.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Plus entry fee. I grew up in a college town and went to the same university. There was a nightclub there (still there amazingly) that had beer for a dime after you paid the cover fee on Tuesdays. I think the entry fee was something like $5, if that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This has to be some sort of penis based loss leader for them right? Like get the dudes sloshed on cheap beer so they'll buy pricier drinks for women they hit on. I hate to say it but that strategy would definately have worked on me when I was college age.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

It isn't a singles club type of place, so I don't think so. It has live bands. I'm guessing it doesn't have dime beer night anymore though.

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[–] [email protected] 138 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'm in the "Z-lennial" group, it's mostly just the cost for me. Why would I spend $20 on 2 drinks at a bar when I can get a 12 pack for $16 and play terraria with my friends?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

There's also the fact that games and Internet are a social option for your generation at all. Previous generations didn't even have that option the same way. Even as a millennial it wasn't nearly as accessible as it is now.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

Or by myself, even better!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

You're supposed to walk in just sober enough to get past the bouncer, dance/flirt, maybe but a single drink, leave.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

If you're doing it right you should only drink water inside the club.

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[–] [email protected] 127 points 1 year ago (1 children)

$10+ drinks is the more likely cause.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago

We went out recently. Purchased 4 x small red wines. Plastic cups. $100. I nearly died. It's out of control.

[–] [email protected] 110 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The new attitude, coupled with a cost of living crisis that leaves many younger generations unable to afford a party lifestyle, is having a knock-on effect on the nighttime economy.

Title is blatantly misleading. Gen Z wants to party as much as their predecessors did, they literally just don't have the money to do so.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Best to keep titles short, and free of any context that might detract from the goal of building sympathy for business owners.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Millennials didn't have money, either (and still don't), but that didn't stop us from partying. I literally entered the job market right as the economy crashed, but I still found a way to get my party on. Cheap hobo wine is the nector of the gods when you're 21 and have been unemployed since you were 17.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (4 children)

GenX/millennial here, you ain't missing much. It's loud and impossible to meet anyone unless you're already good looking.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

eh you need to stay till the end for the garbage collection 😘

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Also around your age (46). I didn't go to clubs to meet people, I went to clubs to drink and dance. Or see a band if it had live music.

I saw They Might Be Giants in a club. I saw P-Funk in a club. I saw King Missile in a club. I saw some fucking amazing bands, both national and regional, in clubs and I think the most expensive was P-Funk at $20.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Elder millennial here, it's supposed to be loud. Wear earplugs

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the cause is the same as everything else: it's too expensive and we're all poor. I'd love to go out more, including to nightclubs, but I can't afford to

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Soon

Gen Z is killing the food industry with a new fad they call 'dying of malnutrition '

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess it says a lot about the Lemmy demographics but it's getting really sad that every time something about nightclubs appears here, there's a whole bunch of people explaining why they don't like night clubs.

I'm assuming Lemmy trends towards a more introverted group and that's cool. But I'm here not caring about Linux or Baldur's gate, while at the same time understanding that it's very important and interesting to a bunch of people.

I'm an elder millennial. I spent a shit tonne of time in clubs, as did the majority of people I know. I still did other things in places that were more quiet, had conversations and met people. It's true guys - you can actually like both!

I went clubbing to sometimes meet boys, but mostly to drink and dance to extremely loud and often very commercial music, sometimes on drugs too. Because people, that kind of activity is really fun to some people.

But these threads always read like a Boomer pile on on a Facebook post, yammering about how they played outside as kids and walked to school.

The reason younger people aren't clubbing as much is cost. That's it. Talk about that. Not how you think it's an interesting take that clubs are loud and dirty.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was at a night club last night, partying like I’m in my 20s. Difference is now I’m helping produce the event rather than just going

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago

(pst it's the economy stupid)

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Or maybe it's because the majority of Nightclubs are bad products... Why would I want to go to a club where all the art has been sucked out in the name of profit? The resident DJs are just going play the same top 40 tracks while cheap dmx lights are set to auto. There are hundreds of promoters putting in actual value to their shows which makes people actually want to go out instead of the cheap cookie cutter shit you find in the avarage club.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

Yeah it's another gen hit piece. Like Gen Z all convened and decided to skip nightclubs for, idk, the lulz

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Average cocktail around here is $15 + 20% tip = $18.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's because they are too busy switching genders and installing Linux builds

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Alternative non commercial clubs, festivals and parties. That's where the fun is.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if you microdose mushrooms when you go out you only need like 1/3 of the normal number of drinks to have a great time trust

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

or you can macro dose and tell the capitalist pigs to keep their poison

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Clean living Gen Z? Lol ok sure

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Never actually been to one. No real reason.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Gen Z is just less outgoing in general. More computers, less nightclubs.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The majority of Gen Z isn't even old enough to get into a nightclub to begin with. Gen Z is currently 12-27. I'm bad at math, but isn't that something like only 40% of the generation that's 21+?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Most places in the world allow people to drink before age 21.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

If that's what it takes for them to stop pretending that anyone wants to pay that much, then great. Alcohol prices are obscene.

And that's coming from someone that absolutely hates alcohol's mere existence as a beverage type. I won't go into that here, but rest assured I'm not losing any sleep over anything that makes it more obvious it's a bad choice.

I've always said that I am ok with almost everything that makes cigarettes and/or alcohol less convenient/more expensive/less desirable.

I'm willing to admit part of it is a "stop looking what I don't like", but I REALLY hate both of these things, and will rejoice any time something "terrible" happens to those industries or the people who benefit from them.

I'm the monster that sees a smoker get lung cancer and just don't feel bad for them. You literally chose that. Sorry but you did.

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