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Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley’s recent First Things essay, “Our Christian Nation,” may warm the hearts of Christian nationalists and confound historians and theologians who worry about continuing threats to the separation of church and state.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As an atheist lefty, Im proud to be considered this traitor's enemy.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.

  • Franklin Delano Roosevelt
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

FDR must have been a terrible person, his enemies HATED him!

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (11 children)

The same Josh Hawley who tried to overturn the 2020 election? The same who egged on insurrectionists outside the capitol on Jan 6th?

I just want to make sure we are talking about the same Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley here, so there's absolutely no confusion.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fucking revisionist, fantasy bullshit, call it out for what it is and QUIT GIVING IT THE OXYGEN OF MEDIA ATTENTION.

That’s how ya starve the beast.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure baptistnews.com is interested in doing that

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ignoring fascists doesn't make them stop.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

America was never a christian nation.

and if he gave a shit about the founding documents outside of the 2nd amendment, he might know that.

Hell, "In god We Trust" only came around in force cause we thought it'd somehow magically keep the "evil communists" away in the 50s.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

America was never a christian nation.

Okay, tap the breaks. America is absolutely a nation of Catholic and Protestant migrants, with much of the lower half dominated by Spanish/French missionaries while the northeast was originally settled by English, French, German, and Scandinavian Protestants fleeing the 30 years war, the Napoleonic Wars, the World Wars, and their attendant aftershocks.

De-Christianization in the US is a very new phenomenon, largely stemming from the economic expansion of the post WW2 era and the rapid circulation of professional workers during the Reagan Era. To say we "were never a Christian nation" you really need to explain where all these damned churches came from. Some of them are really old.

Hell, “In god We Trust” only came around in force cause we thought it’d somehow magically keep the “evil communists” away in the 50s.

Yes, but we've been having religious revivals in this country straight back to before the original founding. A big part of our history involves different sects of religious diaspora migrating to the US as refugees fleeing this or that pogrom, from French Huguenots fleeing to Louisiana to West New York Mormons fleeing to Utah to Polish Jews fleeing to Brooklyn to Black Baptists fleeing to Harlem.

The "In God We Trust" thing was the comical low-hanging fruit passed by a 1950s Congress that wanted to conflate the broadly popular idea of Christian religious doctrine with the far more controversial idea of Market Capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (21 children)

Yeah, the people that came to build european colonies on this land were christian extremists, but that doesnt make America a christian nation... Especially since the very foundation of the nation, a staunch separation of church and state with no law establishing one religion over another, was one of the very beginning principles.

Its right there in the first amendment.

America is a land where religion should have no more presence but between a person and their god, as far as Jefferson was concerned at least, and I'm sure many other founders shared that sentiment.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Nation of christians and christian nation are two very different things, despite using the same words. America has historically been populated by a Christian majority, but from its foundation America has existed with separation of church and state as one of its core principles

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Such bullshit. The left isn’t atheist. The left just says you can believe in whatever god you want, or no god at all, just don’t tell us we have to believe in your god.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly.

And this mothefucker is the type to finally make me stand up. You can have whatever religion you like, UNTIL YOU FORCE ME TO PRACTICE.

I will turn this nation upside down before I allow that to just happen and I'm sure I can count on everyone here to join in.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I’ll tweak your comment just a bit, “until you force me to live by your religious beliefs”. Being forced to believe “their way” is almost irrelevant if they’re already punishing you for not doing so. The end result is the same: You will conform.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, that's interesting Josh Hawley, but the whole 'separation of church and state' thing says you're wrong. I'm sorry you don't like it but you're more than welcome to go fuck yourself.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Consider the SCOTUS has now established "deeply rooted in our nation's history and traditions" as the test for whether something is constitutional or not... his viewpoint will certainly resonate there.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Yes. It's disgusting. Judges are not supposed to be politicians and these Christofascists use some real pretzel logic interpretations of law to come to their conclusions.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would happily kick Josh Hawley in the dick, so I don't give a shit what he thinks.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm reasonably certain that I can count on one hand the number of times Hawley or his GOP ilk have ever set foot in a church outside of a planned photo op.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Missouri has the lowest life expectancy of any state. Good job there fuckwit, your constituents get to meet Jesus sooner than everyone else. YEE-FUCKING-HAW!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Wait, there's an option to die sooner? Fuck, I'm not really seeing a downside. How do I get in this express lane?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mr Divorcee needs to shut the fuck up.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Very Christian.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Good luck with that, asshole.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Last time I remember seeing him he was running from the 1/6 “tourists”. He needs to become familiar with the guillotine.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

These fascist traitors need to be put in their place.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Chicken shit Hawley can go and fuck himself

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I'm sure Jesus would be so pleased to know that his image is used to bring power to the American christofascists. 🙄

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why does he look like a half-chewed dog's toy?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure Mr. Hawley is just the sort that will appeal to whatever fears and hatred will drive his base to the election polls. Either he'll get betrayed once the Wolf's Lair decides his kind are the next on the purge list, or he'll get executed by the Allies for being a high-ranking officer in a fascist autocracy.

And if he somehow escapes, the Nazi hunters will be on his tail for the next half century.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Rot in hell, extremist Christian fuck-face.

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