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[–] [email protected] 180 points 1 year ago (6 children)

In other words, he will steal $600M from the public by this move.

Tax evasion is theft.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I want higher taxes on people like this too but are you trying to argue he shouldn’t be able to move?

Or that he should be subject to taxes in a state which he doesn’t live in anymore?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're not arguing either of those things. Clearly they're just stating the facts of the situation.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So, theft is moving states and no longer being subject to the previous state’s taxes?

Is that a fact?

I’ve got a buddy who moved from MD to TX. Is he stealing from MD because he no longer pays taxes there?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If most of someone's weath was acquired in another state, why should their new state of residence be entitled to it? A weath tax could help fix this

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don’t really see the significance of where he acquired it.

Amazon, maybe more than any company, has/had customers all over the world. That money came from literally everywhere.

When someone says “they shouldn’t be able to do that!” My question is, do what?

Move? Not pay taxes in states they don’t live in?

As I said at the outset, I also think he should pay more taxes but as long as states can decide what taxes they collect, this particular issue isn’t going anywhere.

That or force people not to be able to move or force people to pay taxes in any state they ever lived in.

But I’ve made the mistake of bringing logic to an emotional thread.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Yup, and they successfully argued for years that their non-physical presence in a state meant they should not pay sales taxes in that state, effectively forcing states to subsidize Amazon at the expense of local businesses.

So what you seem to be arguing is that logic dictates that anyone with the economic power to ensure or prevent the passage of laws is necessarily correct, and that the only definition for a term like “theft” is the legal interpretation that you, as a non-lawyer, decide to apply. You’re saying that, despite centuries and millennia of colloquial usages of the term, both predating and concurrently used with the very restricted legal definition, any dictionary or other usage-derived definition is invalid.

That doesn’t sound like logic to me, Mr. Spork.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

Tax Advoidance isn't theft though.

No I don't get it either esp considering this

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Explain tax evasion, in legal terms, because you accused him of a crime.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Yup, it's tax avoidance, not tax evasion. It's morally wrong especially because he has the power to influence the system, but it's not legally wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Typically M is thousand, and MM is million. Not that either of us generally get to use them.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Where is m used as thousands? Typically it's k for thousands

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

M is only used for million in the US.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Not in the US or US based websites.

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 year ago (8 children)

If I had 200 dollars and someone would offer me 60 cents for moving to Miami, I would not move.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If someone offered me $600M to move to Miami, I would offer someone $300M to move to Miami and pocket the rest

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I love that I have a way hotter wife than the richest man on earth, his looks plastic

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago

At least he's dating someone roughly his own age. He could probably do like Musk and date a series of women in their 30s, but he opted for a different strategy.

I hate everything about Jeff Bezos, especially his very existence, but this is the one thing I think it's dumb to criticise him for.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought his previous wife was far more attractive than his current partner. Obviously I don't know their personalities and such though.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Everyone's got different taste.

Billionaires typically have the weirdest, like children

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not trying to defend this shit bag, but looks aren’t everything.

If the only quality your wife has is “being hot” then I am afraid you lost.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Get rid of income taxes and do a national Land Value Tax on all business properties instead, like Henry George talked 145 years ago, problem solved.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Okay, but Bezos makes the bulk of his money on intellectual property and service fees, not physical real estate.

What you're proposing is still, fundamentally, a tax cut for Tech guys and a big tax hike on the agricultural / mineral / business real estate sectors. It also sets up this very fluid goalpost of "What is an acre of land worth?"

We play this game in Texas, and there's an enormous incentive for regional economic interests to decide who the Texas Comptroller and Texas Railroad Commissioner is, because these two get to functionally dictate how much tax will be collected on land assets. By contrast, the head of the IRS taxes all dollars equally.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Imagine despising the country that facilitated the acquisition of your embarrassing hoard of wealth to begin with this much.

Does Jeff treat his parents that gave him a quarter million to start with this much disrespect as well? Or was their part in facilitating his success one that he actually acknowledges?

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i like that the article mentions at the end that he bought 2 mansions and is considering buying 3 more to knock them down and then spend $200M building a different house.

If I had to come up with a comically overdone billionaire for a story, i don't think i could come up with anything like that lmao.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (9 children)

What the fuck is up with her claw thing that's grasping his hand???

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean what the fuck is also up with him making a fist while she grasps her hand? Is that like some sort of manliness role play

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

she saw the photographer and she's trying to hold him back from sucker-punching an Amazon warehouse worker he's just spotted

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

don't dick moves like this create incentives for states to decrease tax?

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh good I was worried about his wealth poor fella

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

So happy for him. Maybe he can buy some empty bottles for his employees.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Tax dodger piece of shit scum.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Why do all these shit bags keep moving to my swamp? Get out of my swamp!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Huh. So the Jeff Bezos Trump attacked regularly for being an ultra-left liberal pinko commie red not only moved to Florida, but moved to Florida so he wouldn't have to pay as much tax.

That doesn't make much sense... unless Trump's assessment of him was wrong. But how likely is that?

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