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[–] morphballganon 26 points 6 months ago (24 children)
[–] [email protected] 127 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (8 children)

Great argument. How about buy your shit from actual stores, whether online or brick and mortar. Believe it or not, we actually managed to get by for millennia without amazon

[–] [email protected] 71 points 6 months ago (2 children)

A lot of those stores actually closed down because of Amazon.

Many that offer specialized equipment are located in locations that are far or difficult to access and/or have opening hours that are the same as my work hours.

I do my best to buy local and from physical shops, but sometimes nobody had what you're looking for and Amazon can get it to your door in 24 hours.

I hate the company but fuck is it practical. They need a serious competitor but nobody wants to even try with the amount of money Bezos got.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Use Amazon, only when you have no other option.

Not "no other option with 1 day shipping"

Not "no other option that delivers to my door"

Not "no other option that doesn't cost $10 more"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

That's what I try to do at best at possible.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

also the amazon truck drives by my house every day anyway. it’s far more efficient for them to drop off another package on their route than me making a special trip to a physical store.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (2 children)

But I mean we all get why this is wrong. It's becoming a major monopoly. And that's not good.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

This is why trust busting is supposed to exist.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

"becoming" yeah

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago

I bought some 3D printing filament direct from the manufacturer. It got shipped to me by… Amazon. From an Amazon warehouse. I guess that’s how they do fulfillment. 🤷‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Huh. In my large city I have difficulty finding things in brick and mortar stores. Want a silicone tray for your air fryer? Walmart's website says they have them, but when you call the stores, they confirm they absolutely do not. Hobby lobby has it for 5x the price. No local stores come up as stocking them period, None other listed locally. I have this issue quite commonly. Maternity clothes sections just don't exist locally with any variety or consistency with sizes. Baby necessities, toys, and clothing is truly hit or miss in stores. You drive to the one store you think will have what you need and they closed two weeks ago.

I don't live in the boonies. If you live in the US, you've heard of my city. I am constantly running into the issue that things are only available online, and then Amazon is always the quickest shipping, and almost always the least expensive.

Fuck bezos and screw Amazon, but unless you're able to wait a week or three for everything you need, you don't have any good substitutes. I'd love to run out and buy it same day, but it's just not reliable to go to the store anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I wish I could. Most of the stuff I buy from Amazon I can’t find anywhere else. They’ve become the Walmart of online stores and driven everything else out of business. He’ll even Walmart doesn’t have what I want 99% of the time. It sucks. I hate contributing to Wish version Lex Luther …

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (4 children)

AWS is the big one. And they are indeed somewhat unique in the scale and flexibility that they offer. You could leave them, but then you have to build those services and data centers yourself.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (4 children)

They literally aren't unique at all. Those services are offered by plenty of competitors.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

At better prices, with better service and APIs.

It's like people enjoy the abuse? 🤷‍♂️

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

gcp, azure, hetzner, digitalocean, linode..

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[–] morphballganon 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I'm delighted to hear that you can afford the prices of goods from modern brick and mortar stores. What about us 99% though?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Idk wtf stores you're going to, but prices are very similar between online and B&M, and where it's not, I haven't been to a store in years that won't price match.

To answer your question, the 99% of you just need to think about it for a second before parroting some dumbass take.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

MORE FUNDING FOR USPS! FUCK CORPOS!

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[–] Thistlewick 57 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Just not using Amazon? Somehow I’ve managed to survive without needing to buy anything off Amazon in over a decade. How badly do you need to buy random shit online that you can just shrug at the human rights violation that is Amazon?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Exactly! I also haven't bought more than ten items from Walmart in the last fifteen years.

It can cost a little more, and requires patience, but I can think of very few times I've actually needed (versus wanted) some item before I could get it not via Amazon or Walmart. Even with the added expense for some individual items I'd wager I've spent less overall since it makes impulse purchases easier to avoid.

It's probably not amounting to much in the way of resisting these mega corps, but it isn't as difficult as some folks imagine.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

bhphotovideo has been very good to me

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Second this... If they have it available, they've been great to me.

Additional to backfill more "basics", target is at least less crap than Bezos.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Agreed. Target isn't perfect (no corpo is) but I buy from them still

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago

Sure,

Just live with things taking like 2-5 days instead of 1-2

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yep, for just about everything you get on Amazon there are alternatives. You just go to the supplier that sells the thing you need instead. Amazon hasn't had real 2 day shipping in a long time. If you really need that "everything store" experience, Ebay, Target and Walmart all have decent online marketplaces but might as well use the smaller stores. What's keeping you on Amazon? It sure as hell isn't its search, and tons of sites offer free, fast shipping. I have to assume it's habit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Maybe this is true in the US, but in the UK the difference in shipping is Amazon same-day or at the very latest 1-day for free, or easily £5.99+ for something between a week and never because they use the most cost-cutting human slavery looking ass parcel carriers. That's before the fact most things just are flat-out not available outside of Amazon, and if they are, cost 5x.

I happily pay more for local, and I basically bought clothes only on Etsy for quite some time despite being scammed a number of times, but that's crashed too now and is impossible to use, and even before there's no persuasive economical argument to make.

Most suppliers only sell directly on Amazon, or also on AliExpress if it's chinese made stuff, but that in itself is a very different beast because shipping from there is in the month+ range.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I am confused by people’s shopping habits. How often are you buying online and what is it?

Groceries and pharmacy are all local. Clothes are a local boutique (I don’t buy clothes more than one or twice a year and I like to try things on and buy quality items). Shoes are from a local redwing store that I’ve been wearing for over 8 years. Computer parts I do tend to buy online, but I’d never risk buying from Amazon. I typically buy from b&h, cdw, or directly from the manufacturer.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (7 children)

What? There is no need for a substitute. The concept is insanity. Just stop being a consoomer ffs

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Downvoters: "I hate you but you're right."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

There’s a dozen responses stating why the person is wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

…I stopped using Amazon at all about a year and a half ago. It’s not that fucking hard. Do you know how many places want to sell you shit?

Literally all of them.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Plenty of alternatives, if you're willing to look. Books? Try the library. Ebooks? Kobo. Audiobooks? Libro.fm Other products? Shop local (if you still can) otherwise, use Google to find another site that sells shit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Don't most brick and mortar stores also have websites that deliver? Just think of what store might sell what you're lookng for and buy it from them or at least compare prices.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] morphballganon 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I've used ebay before. Full of scammers. No thanks.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Seriously, feels like a crapshoot if I’m actually getting a quality product or garbage that falls apart. Doesn’t help that you can’t trust the reviews, fake reviews aside it feels like every other item tries to bribe you with a gift card for a 5-star review.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Open box shit sold as new, same/next/2 day deliveries getting delayed more often than not, counterfeits, genuinely dangerously unsafe products, a supply chain full of exhausted and burned out workers... Yeah it's all so fucked. I can only hope their retail business collapses as it's increasingly indistinguishable from aliexpress or ebay

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

For prime video, just pirate whatever is their "must watch" show or movie. For online shopping, just stop being a spoiled bitch who can't live with 2 day shipping. Google still works, something you want to buy -amazon.com

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