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The U.S. Secret Service is in the business of protecting the president, whether he’s inside the Oval Office or visiting a foreign war zone.

But protecting a former president in prison? The prospect is unprecedented. That would be the challenge if Donald J. Trump — whom the agency is required by law to protect around the clock — is convicted at his criminal trial in Manhattan and sentenced to serve time.

Even before the trial’s opening statements, the Secret Service was in some measure planning for the extraordinary possibility of a former president behind bars. Prosecutors had asked the judge in the case to remind Mr. Trump that attacks on witnesses and jurors could land him in jail even before a verdict is rendered.

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[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 123 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I would hope that being found guilty of treason would revoke any duty to protect them by the secret service...

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is it only about protecting him or also avoiding him discussing unwanted topics with other inmates in that case? He’s still the recipient of privileged information…

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's exactly this. It's protection for him is a side effect of protecting the country. While these two things will generally overlap, if they ever diverge...

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah you guys still execute traitors right ? That would be quite the signal xD

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apparently only if they are brown or Jewish.

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

With adequate lighting he certainly looks orange enough verging on brownish ;-)

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[–] wahming@monyet.cc 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would you believe trump still has any important secrets he hasn't blabbed yet?

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[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

From what I remember the secret service can opt to stop protecting him.

[–] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

They can't opt out, but HE can.

We just need to convince him that they're spying for the libs or some shit.

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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Trump will not go to a normal prison / gen pop, etc. Toss that thought from your mind.

Trump will die in a shitty military barracks on a shitty military base where he has no internet connection, access to him can be easily controlled & he can't blab state secrets.

There is already a precedent here with Nixon's lawyer.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Other than your first sentence, this is pure fantasy. He'll never go far enough to trigger actual accountability from those that matter...

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[–] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So one thing I don't fully understand is this: the secret service is required by law to protect the former president, but...is there anything that actually requires the state of New York to accommodate the secret service in doing so?

In theory, couldn't the state of New York just actually throw Trump in prison, no special privileges, and also no special accommodations for the secret service?

[–] Colonel_Panic_@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

I would LOVE to see that scenario. Trump goes to prison as he deserves and gets his special accommodations all revoked either by the court or the prison or whatever.

Being immune to repercussions of your crimes because you are in a certain position is a very bad thing.

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[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The fact that this is where American is at is disgraceful.

This traitor needs the maximum penalty and his supporters need to undergo some sort of education on Russian propoganda.

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[–] nytrixus@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (5 children)

He's never going to prison. That's all power-fantasy at this point. How many times in the past 8 years have we've heard this shit in and out? "Oh he's so going to prison for this one thing he did!" "Oh he's definitely going to prison for THAT..."

8 years and this clown is openly doing his shit.

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[–] Devdogg@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I was reading somewhere that congress has introduced legislation barring the secret service from protecting the president once the president is convicted. But good luck getting that passed.

[–] Izzgo@kbin.social 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ex presidents get protection as much because they are a security risk as for their own safety.

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[–] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Kind of like Egyptian kings getting buried with their servants.

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[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 20 points 1 year ago

Maybe they'll get lucky and his cameras will go off for a while when he's on "constant suicide watch."

[–] twistypencil@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I hope that this happens and every single SS agent assigned to this post quits. Who would take a job to be in jail protecting a farting lunatic? Welcome to the SS Johnson, your entire life will be spent behind bars!

[–] frezik@midwest.social 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

ACAB, and the Secret Service is full of cops. They like Trump. That's very clear from their internal memos about the Oath Keepers prior to Jan 6:

https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/emails-reveal-secret-service-contacts-with-oath-keepers/

If Trump tried to plan a prison break right in front of them, they would probably pretend they heard nothing.

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[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Why not just build a small presidential prison?

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

We already have prisons to hold spies.

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Throw him in a solitary super max prison cell. Security won't be needed.

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[–] jennwiththesea@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Maybe we would finally get prison reform, then

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's unsatisfying to say, but house arrest would make the most sense for the secret service.

[–] MakePorkGreatAgain@lemmy.basedcount.com 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

obviously it wouldnt be prison like real prison but more of like goodfellas prison

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[–] pyrate37@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Cool, take them all to a black site in one of those shithole countries he rants about. Guantanamo Bay still open?

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago

Im sure he'll be very secure without them. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADX_Florence

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Other countries have jailed their leaders. If you’re a felon and get jailed as a former President I figure you should lose everything, SS protection, any pension and any benefits are gone too. Why should a jailed president get those things?

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[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I was hoping this was about the Secret Service deleting insurrection related text messages, but sadly not.

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would love to be the USSS person in charge of logistics for this.

I don’t know why. It would be like a strategy/sim game.

All the other agents have different attributes, and the conditions at the prison change during the day.

I’ve already put too much thought into it and I have no idea why I find it interesting.

[–] oo1@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

yeah Syndicate!

Dumb VIPs walking into range of my agent with maxed out red-bar and a gauss gun .

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