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Although it does not mention any vegan variation, there is a wikipedia article about the "completos".

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

What an abomination it has ketchup but doesn't even have mustard.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago

The abomination has mustard inside.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is the green stuff guacamole? It looks VERY green

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

My GAWD I fuck with that

Sounds amazing

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ah! A Chilean vegan, I see.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

That look really good!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Looks good! I'd try it. I'm not vegetarian but I love trying vegan alternatives. I'd stick to some of them if they weren't so expensive.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you haven't and live in the US, try the veggies (could be vegan) hotdogs in IKEA. I love them. They're not the "hot dog + ketchup" kind, but a whole other thing.

I'm not a vegetarian but hot dog meat is extra questionable, so it's been fulfilling my hotdog needs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Not the person you replied to, but I'll have to give that a shot if I make it to IKEA someday :)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (11 children)

Stop trying to mimic meat products, it's a losing battle and will always be inferior. Stop trying to fit foods into a meat "alternative" product that just sucks in comparison to the original, but you try to justify as being "almost the same", it's never even close. It's easily the main reason so many people won't even consider vegan options, they're constantly being lied to and resent that.

Embrace the ingredients and use them in ways that actually make sense. You don't need to replace meat products for people to try an alternative diet, you just need to have other good options. Many vegan restaurants have absolutely delicious and filling food, it's never the options that try to replace a burger though. It's the foods designed from the ground up to be vegan and embracing what the ingredients actually are.

Edit: What a surprise, down voted by the vegan brigade refusing to accept any sort of criticism that their replacements usually suck. Coming to defend poor imitations instead of just acknowledging that some foods don't need to be replaced, and that attempting to do so just steers people away from alternatives entirely.

I never said that alternatives weren't good. In fact I said the exact opposite. That the alternatives need to be treated as their own thing, not a replacement for a meat product. But the knee jerk reaction to downvote anything perceives as anti-vegan is just too strong apparently. And you all wonder why people make fun of the vegan culture. It's almost as bad as Linux fanboys or League of Legends players.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (8 children)

the point isn't to fool people into thinking it's meat the point is to fill the same role as meat in a dish in terms of texture, protein, etc

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (3 children)

it's never the options that try to replace a burger

I generally agree with you, but I actually disagree on this specific example. It's not fake meat burgers that I think are good, though, it's black bean burgers. They're just their own thing and they're awesome.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Same with these vegan hotdogs, they have an autentic flavor. In my opinion, they are "a thing" on their own not pretending to replace anything.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

I agree about black bean burgers. I'm an omnivore but will choose the black bean patty often because they're just so good.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah, I never liked veggie burgers, but black bean patties are awesome!

…. Although I do like beyond/impossible

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Eh, since going vegetarian in the past year or so, I've found that a lot of the meat substitutes actually are pretty good, depending on how you use them. It's not usually so perfect that one cannot truly tell, sure, unless it's a dish where the meat flavor is heavily affected by spices and similar like with chili, but I've definitely found types of substitute bacon, or burgers, or ground meat that taste quite good. Though in my experience it's usually been the cheaper or simpler ones, like black bean burgers or tempeh bacon, that taste best. Not the same, but similar enough to be tasty in broadly similar ways.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

It tastes good tho.

I like it when the food tastes good.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

A vegan sausage can very much be its own thing, both tofu and seitan have their own distinct flavour profile. While there certainly are fake meat sausages, you cannot just assume it is one because of its shape, the same way a meat sausage isn't just a fake cucumber.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Sorry but I absolutely hate this take. I stopped eating meat about 15 years ago, but I grew up on meat-based dishes, and I occasionally like to eat stuff from my childhood, just without the meat. It literally doesn't affect you at all, but you still find the need to tell me that I'm wrong for eating what I enjoy.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Stop trying to mimic meat products

I don't hate them, but I've been saying this for years; maybe because I grew up mostly vegetarian, so I find that there are so many interesting flavours other than meat. Like one local pub here had this great lentil based burger that they stopped making (in-house I'll add) as soon as Impossible meat came bursting on to the stage.

Now, my partner who was raised eating meat meals all the time loves these fake meats (I like them fine, I mean they are good, compared to what was around 90s definitely!). And I've been to the pub with a gaggle of friends and most of the people will get the impossible burger now, which was absolutely not the case before.

So as a gateway for meat eaters to try skipping like one meal of meat and realising they're fine, I'd say they're a smashing success.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Everyone keeps talking about plant substitute meat as if we don't have a developing lab grown replica industry that could do the job just as well, one that actual vegans have admitted they'd consider as a legitimate source of food since it doesn't directly involve an animal or animal byproduct.

I think what we're gonna see is a diversification of the "meat" market with lab grown meat taking the niche of your traditional burgers bacons and sausages, plant substitute leaning into their differences to create more uniquely marketable products, probably selling on their health benefits since people who go off meat for an extended period and then try it again often report a readjusting period tied to how much energy the body has to commit to breaking meats down, and lastly the "fresh meat" industry will go full wagyuification.

They won't have the ability to compete at market scale, so they'll instead make their niche in selling a luxury quality product. Cattle ranchers and bison runners are gonna watch the old looming factories fall over and the owners come running begging to invest in the old fashioned cattle and bison raising that they're now gonna try and sell as creating some superior quality of meat product that justifies the mark-up they're gonna need to sell with to stay in the game longer term.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I have a suspicion that we might see some interesting hybridization of the plant based and lab grown meats at some point. Tissue culture is expensive, and while Im sure the price can be reduced, Im doubtful that it will get cheaper than plant protein is. However, it can potentially taste more like real meat than plants, seeing as, well, it is real meat, just assembled differently. Potentially then, one can probably mix in some percentage of plant protein (or possibly mycoprotein as well) in with the meat in ground meat type products like burgers, without the flavor changing too noticeably, and get something mostly the same with a lower cost.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Looks delish! Got a recipe?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Hi, I like the discussion this "hotdog" generated. Let's just call it something else to avoid getting people confused.

Actually really easy: Just get your favorite hotdog bread. The sweeter the better. Then add some mustard and get your "something else" get cozy on it (you could make your own but getting the standard one from the store is good enough). Add your avocado pasta with a little of garlic and sea salt. On top of that, get your peeled tomatoes chop in tiny pieces with a bit of coriander and make the whole thing every tastier with a bit of ketchup and vegan mayonn@ise.

This is actually a recipe from Chile.

P.s. if you invite them to some friends just tell them that these are boiled carrots so they don't feel disappointed ;)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is my best attempt at a rewrite:

Get (vegan) hotdog buns, the sweeter the better. Spread mustard on the bun, and add your meat substitute. Make an avocado paste, adding some garlic and sea salt, and add that to the hotdog. Dice a peeled tomato and top it with coriander, then add it to the hotdog. Lastly, add ketchup and vegan mayonnaise to taste.

Make sure to tell your friends that you're using meat substitute, so that they aren't disappointed. In the photo, boiled carrots were used as meat substitute.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You got it!

Actually, there is a real vegan sausage in the photo.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

That's interesting to hear that you put some garlic on the avocados - the Chileans I know don't do that, but they left the country in the late 70's. I wonder if this is done by personal preference or if there was a 'culinary branch' created from them emigrating.

I'm also a little surprised to hear about the use of ketchup - I would guess that the red sauce was Aji.

(This is absolutely not an attempt to criticize your food, I am of the firm belief that all Completos are awesome no matter what)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I don't know what I just read but my brain hurts a little

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Counterpoint: It's a salad.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

It's an open faced sushi roll.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As far as I know, this particular arrangement is known as a Completo Italiano, since the ingredients have the same colours as the Italian flag (red tomatoes, green avocado and white mayonnaise).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Hi, that is completely right also the thing with about garlic!

In fact, the Chileans put the avocado in top of the tomatoes and not the other way around as I did.

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