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[–] [email protected] 197 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Dude should have just walked down to the local mechanic. Better pay and hours

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Would a local mechanic train a stranger who had zero knowledge?

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The Army doesn't either. He scored highly on the test for that.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The ASVAB tests for aptitude, hence the name, not the ability to step into a job without training. Looks up practice questions for the Mechanical Comprehension portion to see the kinds of questions that might suggest someone could be a good mechanic.

The U.S. army absolutely does provide training to its mechanics, and does not assume people know jack shit coming in. I scored high enough on the MM portion of the ASVAB to be one and don't don't know a damn thing about fixing vehicles.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought the army gave recruits an IQ test and then trained them for what it thought they were good for.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

Some portions of the ASVAB have questions very similar to those you might find on an IQ test, but it is much more broad than just IQ.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

My parents didn't let me or my sister to go to school on the ASVAB test day. They didn't want recruiters contacting them constanty.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's probably for the best.

I spent 4 years in the USMC and have a very complicated relationship with my time enlisted. There is a lot I'm proud of, but there's also a lot that would be nice to forget.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Yes. More often than you think. If you can tell a 1/2 inch wrench from a pair of pliers you are already ahead of some applicants.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I have a buddy who went from smoking crack to making more money than me in a year working as a mechanic being trained basically from scratch. Now that's obviously anecdotal but it does happen.

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[–] [email protected] 135 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People getting wise to the military. Many would defend their country, but don't want to die for an oil company to make an extra thousand. Guessing which is more likely is left as an exercise for the reader.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah, catch me joining the army when we're fighting actual nazis again. Til then I'm good at home

[–] Blooper 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

"... til then I'm good at home." Funny, that's most likely where you'll have to kill some Nazis next.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

And the good thing is you'll have plenty of warning because your government is unlikely to join the war against the nazis for a good couple of years into the war against the nazis.

I jest....but kinda not really given current US foreign policy (or that of the past 100yrs tbh)

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[–] [email protected] 104 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean it's obviously total bullshit as is, but the fucking link at the bottom really seals the deal... I'm totally convinced now...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Weird, why would it be a .com link as opposed to .gov or .mil?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Because the US government pays a private company to advertise for them

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

Green text, green uniform

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're all over Reddit man

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

At least we're safe here on Lemmy.

^γvɒn^ ^ǝʜɈ^ ^nioį^

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Join Yvan? You mean join Lemmygrad?

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Be on site military contractor

Told I'll be making infinitemoney.jpg

Actually make slightlymorethangs.jpg but with no pension

Tfw ptsd from analyzing combat footage

Tfw actively and daily shunned as "not one of us, just a dirty filthy contractor"

Tfw you can't get another engineering job because your entire portfolio is classified

Tfw when there is no mental health support or support groups available for aforementioned "just a dirty filthy contractor" reasons

Decide to go back to college instead of killing self

Check brand new school email

"Hi, my name is Sgt Fuckface! Here at the national guard we're looking for promising young graduates like you"

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tfw you can't get another engineering job because your entire portfolio is classified

I once got a "redacted" resume from someone who used to work in defense. Basically they just had a bunch of line items like

  • Developed back-end for ████████████████████ in Spring microservices, which is deployed in ██████████████████ used by ██████████ operations daily

It got the point across about their skills and honestly they got an interview from it

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

> be in military
> get inconsolable trauma and my legs blown off for oil company
> end up homeless anyways and die of a drug overdose

God, I love this country. USA! USA!

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They forget the part where the signing bonus doesn't exist after they finish BCT.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Kind of yes. Wikipedia says: Basic Combat Training.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How so? Is it a flat out lie, or are there costs associated with BCT?

Very funny either way, as I was thinking about signing on as a last ditch effort to set myself up a few years ago, but I ended up getting forklift certification and a CDL, and have been doing just fine since.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I know that when I joined up in 1997 a lot of those bonuses simply disappeared if you didn't keep ahold of your original paperwork. Sometimes they had a lot of hidden clauses, so you could lose the bonus for a minor infraction. Or, the bonus was really part of your pay and the full amount would be paid out after if you actually completed 8 years instead of the 2-4 year commitment you started on.

All I know is I personally ended up permanently disabled at 18 and fought with the VA until 2019 to get my disability compensation. Which they only paid me back pay from 2009 instead of from the date of disability in 1997.

Getting money from the government takes a long time. The people downwind of the Atomic test sites have been fighting 50+ years for the full payments from being irradiated during the 50's.

But hey, joining the military is a good job if you aren't stupid and taking a combat MOS when you could have a steady non-combat job with perks. Right now the Commissary benefits for cheap food is worth it with how food prices have been going.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He'll be married to a stripper in no time

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And the proud owner of a Mustang with a 28% APR loan.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

hey man... recruiting's fucking hard. it's harder than ever for them to make their numbers. I feel bad for 'em because it's fucking hopeless. but also, fuck recruiters lol, because when they stop giving fucks, you end up with someone really neet on your squad

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hate recruiters because they encourage naive teenagers to become professional killers at an age and level of experience where they cannot understand what that means.

Half the point of basic training is to break or subvert the part of the brain that questions authority and objects to doing violence. Psychologically, humans are not designed for killing other humans. Taking a life is difficult for a good fucking reason, and bypassing that instinct is dangerous.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Half the point of basic training is to break or subvert the part of the brain that questions authority and objects to doing violence. Psychologically, humans are not designed for killing other humans. Taking a life is difficult for a good fucking reason, and bypassing that instinct is dangerous.

Valid point. I do worry, though, without the training you describe - which I went through - is reverting to pre-ww2 training where soldiers would freeze up in combat instead of reverting to their training (hopefully). At the end of the day, soldiers are trained for combat, and I wouldn't want to put people into those situations without as realistic a training regime as we can devise; you train as you fight so you don't have to sacrifice soldiers to gain the proficiency to operate in a combat environment.

Ideally we'd get rid of war.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, I agree, if you're actually taking a life. If there's a Hitler on the loose, then teach the soldiers to kill without remorse. But why exactly is the US spending the same amount of money as the next 9 countries put together in peacetime? Most soldiers won't take a life, and the ones who do are doing something pointless and evil. Why are we breaking young people's minds in a time of peace?

And y'all actually do have two pretty good reasons for war right now, those being the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the Israeli genocide of Palestine. What's the point in having all those trained killers if you're not gonna use them, and if you're not gonna bother going to war for actual good reasons why bother training all those killers?

There was a good reason to break young people back when they had to go fight the Nazis. What's the point now??

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

I don't know if trying to recruit 4channers is a bottom of the barrel scraping, or just a clear view of how they see every recruit.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Do army recruiters fall under "fed"?

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't they work for the federal government?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

I think "fed" is typically used to refer to the 3 letter alphabet agencies, but as you are technically correct (the best kind of correct), I'll accept it

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

3 letter alphabet agencies

DoD

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

realest 4chan post

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On one hand this is totally just an ad. On the other hand being a suicidal neet is not sustainable.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

On the third, radioactive hand, there are 15000 ways to not be a suicidal neet that don’t involve being a shill for the orphan (and adult) crushing machine

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