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[–] [email protected] 110 points 9 months ago (3 children)

This application looks fine to me.

Clearly labeled sections.

Local on one side, remote on the other

Transfer window on bottom.

No space for anything besides function, is the joke going over my head?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This application looks fine to me.

Clearly labeled sections.

Local on one side, remote on the other

Transfer window on bottom

Thats how you know its old. Its not caked full of ads, insanely locked down, and trying yo sell you a subscription service.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Except that FileZilla does come with bundled adware from their sponsors and they do want you to pay for the pro version. It probably is the shittiest GPL-licensed piece of software I can think of.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FileZilla#Bundled_adware_issues

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The large .war (Web ARchive) being uploaded monolithicly is the archaic deployment of a web app. Modern tools can be much better.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Some of us still do 🙃

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 9 months ago

I remember joining the industry and switching our company over to full Continuous Integration and Deployment. Instead of uploading DLL's directly to prod via FTP, we could verify each build, deploy to each environment, run some service tests to see if pages were loading, all the way up to prod - with rollback. I showed my manager, and he shrugged. He didn't see the benefit of this happening when, in his eyes, all he needed to do was drag and drop, and load the page to make sure all is fine.

Unsurprisingly, I found out that this is how he builds websites to this day...

[+] [email protected] 50 points 9 months ago (4 children)

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I suppose in the days of 'Cloud Hosting' a lot of people (hopefully) don't just randomly upload new files (manually) on a server anymore.

Even if you still just use normal servers that behave like this, a better practice would be to have a build server that creates builds, like whenever you check code into the Main branch, it'll create a deploy for the server, and you deploy it from there - instead of compiling locally, opening filezilla and doing an upload.

If you're using 'Cloud Hosting' - for example AWS - If you use VMs or bare metal - you'd maybe create Elastic Beanstalk images and upload a new Application or Machine Image as a new version, and deploy that in a more managed way. Or if you're using Docker, you just upload a new Docker image into a Docker registry and deploy those.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 9 months ago (2 children)

FileZilla isn't even that old school, cuteftp was the OG one afaik.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (8 children)

No way, WS_FTP was more OG.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Oh god, I know all of these.

Also fuck Tim Kosse. Bundled Filezilla with malware and fucked up my machine in 2014. Had to reinstall Windows. I'll never use it again.

I use WinSCP on Windows and Forklift on MacOS.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I used to use filezilla and I'm not that old... Right? ...Right?

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I mean, a lot of docker files out there with COPY . .

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

True, but building the image is not the same as deploying to production.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Somehow I miss those days. Now you need weeks of training to understand the black magic behind all the build/deployment stuff in whatever cloud provider your company decided to use…

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I remember this. I also remember using scp instead. And ftp, if I go back far enough. rsync is still my friend though zfs has mostly replaced it now.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

How has zfs replaced rsync for you? One is a filesystem, and the other is a filesyncing tool. Does zfs do something im not aware of lol?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

rsync gang when?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

FTP and rsync my beloved

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I never liked FileZilla. I used Cyberduck

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (4 children)

There's just so few decent FTP clients out there, and all of them are very ugly lol

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

FTP isn't really used much any more. SFTP (file transfers over SSH) mostly took over, and people that want to sync a whole directory to the server usually use rsync these days.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

A lot are still doing that and haven't moved up

(Please at least use SFTP!)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

okay, but why did you use a password when the ssh/sftp key is right next to the files

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I used CuteFTP, but I am a gentleman

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

"Felt cute, might transfer files later, idk"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (3 children)

This is how I deployed web servers in school like 3 years ago.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes, war files

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is from before my times, but... Deploying an app by uploading a pre built bundle? If it's a fully self-contained package, that seems good to me, perhaps better than many websites today...

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

There's still a few sites I deploy changes to using ssh+rsync. ...which is made considerably easier by the fact that it's just a static website generated with Jekyll.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You will pry ftp from my cold dead hands.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Can you use sftp instead? Pwease? 🥺

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Did it for the first time two years ago. It was for my parent's business website. I see nothing wrong with this method.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

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