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[–] Pavidus@lemmy.world 120 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

All depends on the game. PC players have options.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 40 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Games like Palworld and GTA are better with a controller. Games like Cities: Skylines and any game requiring significant precision are better with a mouse and keyboard.

[–] maxprime@lemmy.ml 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I prefer over the shoulder games like GTA with keyboard mouse and controller.

Controller for general navigation and when a firefight starts to go down, my right hand switches to the mouse and my left hand is still on the controller, resting on the desk. When the firefight starts getting hectic the controller gets dropped and it’s WASD from there on out.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 9 months ago

Gta on foot is mouse + keyboard but any driving or flying needs the controller

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[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 45 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Really depends on the games.

[–] elgordino@fedia.io 13 points 9 months ago

Yeah, most 3rd person games I like to play with a controller, first person not so much.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well, yeah. Racing games, platformers, and action games are generally more comfortable with controller. Third person shooters, FPS, anything that requires aiming, or RTS games are still best done with mouse.

[–] Black616Angel@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't really like playing platformers with a controller.

I played through Celeste, Super Meat Boy and Rayman on PC only with keyboard and played Super Meat Boy, Rayman and N++ on the switch. I prefer the keyboard.

For 3D games (even platformers) I prefer the controller though.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I prefer games that can be played with a controller to be played with a controller just to mix up the ways I fuck up my wrists

[–] mrfriki@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Steam Deck and the console users that pivoted to PC gaming during the scalpers riddled PS5/Xbox launch are probably the most likely causes for this.

[–] invertedspear@lemm.ee 17 points 9 months ago

Right, PC gamers aren’t embracing controllers, console gamers are embracing PC gaming.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Usage triples <-> 15 % increase

Pick one. Triple is 300 % increase. Article says 15 % is the proportion using them, not the increase.

[–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 21 points 9 months ago

Yeah, this is just an issue with the Lemmy post’s title. The article is clear that 15% are using controllers now, up from 5% in 2018.

[–] alessandro@lemmy.ca 14 points 9 months ago

Thanks for bring this up, now I've fixed from "15% increase to " increase to 15% from 5%". Should be more clear

[–] Kyatto@leminal.space 28 points 9 months ago

for certain games controllers are so comfy, I've had a controller next to my desk for years for times I want to play something more casual that supports controllers.

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think it's most likely that more people are playing genres like platformers and fighting games that are designed for controllers on PC than before.

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[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

It's not that PC gamers were opposed to using controllers. PC gamers love our peripherals. The problem was support for it. Most of the controllers beforehand had proprietary connectors that would never work in the PC. And then even if you could connect the controller there was no guarantee it would work. But now with more standardization around USB and Bluetooth adding and better driver support for the controllers we can finally use them.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Most of the controllers beforehand had proprietary connectors that would never work in the PC.

That was in the 90s... 20 years ago I was gaming on PC with a PS1 dual shock using a cheap adapter, and then switched to the Xbox 360 controller which used a standard USB port.

[–] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 months ago

Not here to comment on whether you are right (because you are) but more to report the whiplash of realising 20 years ago is still in the 2000s. Mentally, 20 years ago puts something early nineties to me.

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[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Games need to support it well with remapping and better UI and ways to control that make sense.

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Other than soulslikes I pretty much always prefer mouse+KB. Playing bg3 with a controller briefly during a co-op run was just way worse, for example.

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[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 9 months ago

I have to wonder what percentage of folks are using handheld gaming PCs like the Steam Deck or ROG Ally. Personally I've found that I game much more now that I have a Steam Deck and can mindlessly play stuff like Dave the Diver while relaxing on the couch with my SO, versus setting aside specific "gaming time" to be at my desk.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 9 points 9 months ago

I don't understand controllers. I can never get to use them properly. I grew up playing on computers all my life. My brain simply can't grasp them and I always forget where all the buttons are.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago

I hate controllers. I use them only on games that suggest they are important. I don't tend to like those games.

[–] aluminium@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

I said this for years but PC is the biggest thread for the Xbox and Sony, not mobile.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Doesn’t help that plenty of games have stripped down controls that don’t allow you to change keybinds because they’re built for controllers. I don’t know if embracing is the right word.

Edit: I’ll also offer that devices like the Xim look like controllers, but still allow use of mouse and keyboard.

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[–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

As others have said, it really depends on the game. But I would say >90% of my PC gaming is done with a controller. I've just become so adapted to them, that the keyboard and mouse just feels foreign now. Even with FPS, most of the time I use a controller. I'm aware of the advantages of using a mouse obviously, but again I'm just conditioned to it now.

[–] homicidalrobot@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

If you can aim assist snap as fast as someone can flick, it's fine. A lot of games account for this and it pisses off the "m+kb is the only good peripheral" crowd every time despite their constant insistance that controller is worse for everything. Even OG overwatch had competitive controller pros (e.g. Malik); map knowledge, good awareness and positioning, control of resource locations (or power weapon spawns in older fps) have always been skills that contribute to wins as much as aiming well, regardless of peripheral. The best peripheral is the one you're most comfortable competing with.

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[–] MisplacedAstronaut@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

I must be going the opposite route. After playing console for so long I'm starting to notice I can't use a controller as well as I used to. Been debating on dusting off the keyboard and mouse and using it on my Playstation until I can get a new pc.

I'm not sure what it is... but I guarantee if I played online other people would wonder if I was a bot or something because I my hands feel weird on a controller all of a sudden.

[–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

How much of that is console players switching to pc

[–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Big picture mode is great.

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[–] toofpic@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

For me, it's linked with the amount of "local multiplayer" titles on Steam. There was fucking nothing! Ok, we could play nes or sega games, but it was strange to not have a lot of modern games. Thankfully, it's slowly changing

[–] dog_@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I believe many users are going controller over mnk is because these game devs are making it extremely easy to aim using controller, which does not make it a fair fight against mnk players.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

There are also a thousand video game genres that don't require shooting.

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