Perfect example that vast majority of narcotics enter the country through LEGAL checkpoints and NOT via migrants crossing the border as Trump and GOP like to fear monger
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not to mention they are half as criminally violent compared to US Citizens....about 45% less violent if they are undocumented
It has always been about racism. not crime. not drugs.
The crime stats are heavily skewed as undocumented persons are significantly less likely to involve the police.
Large groups of people are pretty predictable. The actual crime rates are probably much closer to the equivalent crime rates of the cities and neighborhoods that align to with their own economic status i.e class and poverty are the best predictors of crime rates, not citizenship, or lack thereof.
This isn't an argument for, or against, any immigration policy. It's an argument against using flawed statistics.
Wouldn't that argument count more towards the victim of a crime than the perpetrator?
Why would someone not involve police when the offender is an undocumented immigrant?
Keep in mind, the statistic only includes felonies.
You're assuming that undocumented persons are evenly dispersed amongst the country, and in every community, when they're not.
While you'll find undocumented persons all over the country, like any other group, there are areas of heavy concentration that account for the majority of population. And in those areas, they tend to form communities around each other.
So if the vast majority of them live within communities that comprise heavily of other undocumented migrants, those crimes that are between two and undocumented persons, are significantly less likely to be brought attention of American law enforcement.
I'm not saying never, but that is a common enough occurrence to skew those stats and make them disingenuous at best.
Again, nothing new to what I'm saying here...
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Real, scientifically backed, crime stats actually say the exact opposite of your claim. It turns out cops are racist as fuck, and are so much more likely to interact with and cause trouble for people of color whenever the opportunity presents itself that it’s not even a question. https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2020/05/veil-darkness-reduces-racial-bias-traffic-stops
What you're talking about has exactly nothing to do what's being discussed here....
Except for the possibility that the racist reputation of police in America may contribute to the reluctance of the undocumented persons to report when that they've been a victim of a crime...
Do you say the same thing when stats are used to demonize immigrants? You apply the same level of skepticism?
Of course.... Why wouldn't I?
Wait...Do you believe spreading bad information, or fake news, is justified if it's for something you believe in?
And it's not skepticism, it's a known flaw in that bogus stat. It's not like I'm breaking news here.
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There's a lot of assumptions here.
Significant isn't specific. A specific number would give us an idea if the rate of crime committed by undocumented persons exceeds, meets, or continues to fall short of the other two groups.
Next, you're assuming that the victims of violent crimes by undocumented workers are other undocumented workers. This, to some degree makes sense. But it's not 100%.
Next, poverty in of itself isn't sufficient to predict rates of crime. Crime is a choice taken when there aren't other avenues available. Arguably, the reasons undocumented peoples move here is because their prospects are better here. That is to say, they chose to leave their people to come here instead of staying there and commiting crime. This isn't, obviously, specific. But it's a factor you didn't consider.
Finally, what do you mean by class? There's a lot of usages.
This isn't an argument to say you are wrong. It's an argument that you have been specific or open to other factors.
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They really seem to not care about anything other than the migrants.
“But they will take my cookies!”
But they will take my cocaine!
And my bow.
And genitals.
The agency had learned about a semitrailer coming across the Mexican border, and agents tracked the drugs to the farmers market, said DEA Special Agent in Charge Robert Murphy. The drugs were found inside the truck, he said.
“This was contained in a cover load of celery,”
So unfortunately not inside the celery itself, which would of course be significantly more fun :(
Now I'm wondering if you could get celery to soak up a drug solution since it's so watery, then extract the drugs again later
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Meth sprinkled celery would be quite a reinventing of the traditional ‘ants on a log’ recipe, anyway
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Don't knock it until you've tried it. I lost 87 pounds in 2 months on the meth and celery diet. The twitching and sores are totally worth it.
Thanks, just changed it.
No worries!
They didn't throw out the meth though right?
The 1500 lb of meth? No they didn't throw that away.
That seizure of 980lb of meth is surely a county record, and was promptly moved to a secure location.
Yeah we loaded all 530lbs of meth into evidence already Danny.
First those sweets in NZ then this. Lots of screwups in the meth business!
At least this meth isn't where a child would find it!
I'm surprised it's where a Georgian would find it.
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At that point, isn’t it more that celery was found in a shipment of meth?
ANTS! On a log!
But these will crawl all over you.
My mom just used peanut butter to stuff celery. This sounds like a horrible mother…
Not the onion indeed
Why is meth suddenly popping up in food everywhere?
Meth is really tasty
Both have negative calories?
At least the junkies are eating healthy.
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