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[–] aniki@lemmy.zip 59 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

I do miss the "making of" features that showed behind the scenes but as computers got better and movie execs got cheaper it wasn't that interesting to just be like "well we did it with a green screen and then in post." for fucking EVERYTHING...

It was much more fun watching pure artists at their craft making models and explosions and trick camera work for practical effects.

My theory is that practical effects takes a monumental amount of knowledge and skill and as those people got more and more expensive it was cheaper for the vultures to just hire college grad artists and grind them into the ground than pay the union salaries.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago (6 children)

My theory is that practical effects takes a monumental amount of knowledge and skill and as those people got more and more expensive it was cheaper for the vultures to just hire college grad artists and grind them into the ground than pay the union salaries.

I think it takes the same amount of knowledge to do well.

But cheap CGI looks better than cheap practical effects. Or it can be made cheaper. Maybe both.

Anyway, even Empire Strikes Back involved using computers for some work. Yep, late 70s' computers.

It's not one or another with these.

I think the reason for the drop in quality is moviemaking becoming corporate. Not "owned by corporations" kind of corporate (obviously that too), but "no way to get in without acquaintances or patrons inside" corporate, nepotism.

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[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago

The making of Fury Road is quite fascinating, the bulk of the vehicles and stunts are real. A lot of the Fast and the Furious stunts and vehicles are real as well.

[–] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

I always loved the behind the scenes for Eternal Sunshine. Kate was so excited about the production, she'd be like "I had to crawl through this hole into a different set and do a quick costume change so we could do it all in one take."

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

One thing I always appreciated about the Fast and Furious movies were their lean to practical effects, at least the earlier ones.

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 50 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I did say goodbye to almost all DVDs, but I haven’t said goodbye to 4K Blu Ray discs, nor will I.

[–] Thatuserguy@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I am disappointed it feels like physical media is slowly going away though. It's not only nice to have a physical collection in my opinion, but it directly supports the stuff you like, and you don't have to deal with the bs that comes with digital "ownership" or the ever changing mess that are streaming services.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

i feel like my 24TB of movies and tv is a physical copy. i can watch over 2500 movies or 30,000 episodes perfectly curated with extras, commercial free and can hand a copy to my kids on a single drive.

[–] Thatuserguy@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't mind having downloaded digital copies. I have a Plex server of stuff too. But sometimes it's just easier to just buy a disk rather than find a safe/working torrent just to get it digitally

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 5 points 7 months ago (6 children)

i spose. theres lots of automation tools available now..

adding a title to sonarr and having it automatically downloaded, processed and added to my library seems a lot easier than driving to some store or ordering online where i would now i have to deal with 'disks'

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[–] Prox@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Haha! Physical media has been "slowly going away" since before UHD existed as a format. Just keep buying whatever format you like and distributors will keep it going. Look at all the catalog titles and niche (often limited special run) titles still being added to UHD.

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[–] n3cr0@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Discs mean too much hassle. I'd have to rip them all prior to storing the movies on my harddrives. Streaming subscriptions are convenient, but too limited and they don't offer the best quality. IMHO, a download option is the best of both worlds.

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[–] ArugulaZ@lemmy.zip 44 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I haven't given up on DVDs. Don't assume we've all abandoned the disc format, because I'm certain many of us still use them.

[–] Spaceinv8er@sh.itjust.works 24 points 7 months ago

There's literally dozens of us

[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Making toxic trash and wasting resources just to be a hipster, we're all proud of you

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (5 children)

….he smugly typed on his slave labor made iPhone.

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

I really miss video rental stores.

walking in to the smell of fresh popcorn, getting an enormous bag of it for like 99 cents, walking up and down the aisles browsing the latest releases for something that non-algorythmically catches your eye to watch over the weekend.

Maybe even swinging through the game aisle to pick up the new game that just came out.

It was an experience that is lost and will never be replicated by streaming/rental boxes/etc/etc.

Worse, the loss of physical ownership. You do not own anything you buy on a streaming service. Sony as proven that on more than one occasion. You are also stuck to the whims of your internet connection.

But physical media? You can play that anywhere, any when, any how. WIth no worry for stable internet connections and other bullshit.

Physical media isn't dead, you can still buy DVD/Bluray disks for popular content, unless it's a platform exclusive.

So if you really value physical media, buy it and refuse to use streaming services. I rip mine to Jellyfin so I get the same streaming platform experience, while owning physical media. If my kids want to watch something, I order it and rip it. If my internet connection dies, I still have access to it because it's on my local network. If someone wants to borrow it, I just give them a copy (or I can point them to my Jellyfin service, which is also available outside my house).

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago (7 children)

my local video store had the perfect setup. they were next to a pizza place and actually installed a window connected to it so you can order a pizza and look for a movie to watch while waiting for it to be ready. it was perfect. now its a stupid ass dollar store

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[–] SouthFresh@lemmy.ml 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It seems like the extras were for a specific limited demographic. When the costs of producing the extra content, and sales of the physical media are taken into account.... I would guess that when a no-extras vs extras version of the same movie was available, the one that was cheaper with less content sold more.

I enjoyed the extra features on a handful of shows, but I think this is a smaller sales-base than the author realizes.

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[–] essell@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I never cared for "extras" anyway.

Just let me enjoy the film.

[–] Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Sometimes there are genuine jewels in there. Talledaga Nights directors commentary is absolute gold. Might be as funny as the movie itself. Adds a layer of lore you didn't know you needed.

and how much could it possible freakin cost?? a single audio track with a buncha guys sitting around speaking unscripted?

[–] essell@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Fair, I'm not convinced I do need that layer.

I guess if people are into films as a topic, or even a specific film, then that'd be interesting.

Not for me.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I feel the same way. I like the streaming/VCR experience of hitting play and seeing the media. Those old DVD menus that wanted me to mess with extras sucked.

[–] everett@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

99% of DVD menus would have the "Play movie" pre-selected, letting you activate it with a single press of the Play or Select button.

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[–] hoch@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I do not miss 480p. Just go on YouTube and watch a video on the lowest resolution if you miss the experience lol

[–] spyd3r@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago

The 480p streams on Youtube are significantly worse than 480i/p video on Laserdisc or DVD, that's not a fair comparison. Youtube's compression algorithm is utter shit for picture quality.

[–] gex@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

480i blown up on a 4k 50 inch display is going to look terrible compared to native 4k content, but on a 30 inch CRT it looked just fine

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Back when the remake of Battlestar Galactica was on the air the showrunner Ronald D. Moore had a podcast where he'd sip some scotch and smoke a couple cigarettes and provide commentary for the episode. It worked really well, and got me to watch the show twice because I wanted to follow along. Eventually they made it onto the DVD/Bluray releases as commentary audio tracks.

With the growth of podcasting I'm amazed other shows haven't done something similar.

[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub 7 points 7 months ago

Who's said bye to DVDs?

[–] 2ncs@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

I mean those things can exist outside of DVD

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

My wife and I just streamed a movie a few days ago. It had a ton of bloopers intermixed with the end credits.

[–] auzy@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

You missed some crappy menu at the beginning that possibly spoiled the movie.

I love watching movies without knowing nothing about it. Like the menu, I simply saw the coverart.

Also why I don't go cinema anymore. They often spoil a lot in ads

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 7 months ago

the simpsons dvd and the commentaries on them were amazing.

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Bunch of stuff I don’t care about and can get on the internet if they care enough to make it.

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