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Following today's launch of the new iPhone 16 models, Apple has shared repair manuals for the iPhone 16, the iPhone 16 Plus, the iPhone 16 Pro, and the iPhone 16 Pro Max. The repair manuals provide technical instructions on replacing genuine Apple parts in the ‌iPhone 16‌ models, and Apple says the information is intended for "individual technicians" that have the "knowledge, experience, and tools" that are necessary to repair electronic devices.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Define "full". Full schematics, board layouts?

^PPBUS_G3_HOT^

[–] [email protected] 66 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But... are you allowed to read them unless you got an official reading certificate from Apple?

/s

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

It’s only $99/ year!

Though you can only read it on registered devices.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 7 months ago

Not because they wanted to, but because they had to....

[–] [email protected] 41 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Step one: take to Apple Store
Step two: get repaired at Apple Store

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago (1 children)

oop sorry it would cost $1,999.99 to repair this face ID scanner, would you like to purchase our new iPhone 18 Ultra Pro Max Lite ++ with Wii motion+ inside instead?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

lol I just saw a video about Wii motion plus so this hits extra hard

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The closest Apple store to me is a 90-minute drive. The closest place to me selling Apple devices is a Walmart a few miles away.

There is a place in town which repairs Apple devices. It is not an Apple store.

Which place would I rationally take it to if I wanted to get it repaired?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Step one: take to Apple Store
Step two: get repaired at Apple Store

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

See the 'rationally' part and explain how the 90 minute drive is the rational option.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Think different. /s

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My front facing camera on my iPad stopped working. My device is pristine, has always been in a case, has zero cracks, and has never been dropped. I brought it in to an apple store and they said they could fix it for half the price of a new one. Fuck 'em. I'd rather just do it myself. It was out of warranty by a few months maybe. I don't remember. The front camera isn't worth half the price of a new device.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Same experience every time I’ve gone only repair cost is always more than 50% of the cost of replacement.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I see a lot of commenters really hate Apple, but to clarify, the manual isn’t what’s important here.

According the article, the manuals indicate that the iPhone 16 is actually easier to repair. This is good news for consumers, independent repair shops, and the environment.

You can use a 9-volt battery to remove adhesive and they’ve added more support for Face-ID when replacing the LIDAR sensor.

We still have a long way to go for our right to repair but, the pressure that we put on companies and governments to make change is working. We should celebrate that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I watched a Hugh Jeffrey's teardown video yesterday where he showed using a 9 volt battery to remove the iPhones battery. I have to say, that is pretty neat.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

In case anyone else wants to see it, I've even queued up the link https://youtu.be/8CTX8W4UZUA?si=uv_bvwoHD40B0YDJ&t=846

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This is good news. I hope we get similar concessions on (fairly priced) spare parts availability 🤞

E: I'm guessing the downvoters want fewer spare parts available? Strange opinion but ok.

E2: Oh! I am stupid. Could just be an Apple investor

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Yes I'm sure they're actually helpful

[–] [email protected] 44 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you had bothered to click the link in the post and read the manuals, you'd have found out that the manuals are very nice, but no, you just wanted to go "Appol bad"

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

If one has followed Apple with regards to their repair programs or their opposition to right to repair laws then it's only natural to expect the old apple on the ground to be rather fermented.

I may very well find a "very nice" (looking) manual, but I've come to expect it is actually unhelpful - at least that's the opinion of a certain 3rd-party Apple repair shop owner.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, Apple was for years very anti-repair.

So the manuals are nice but that doesn't absolve them for the decades of products designed to be hard to repair on purpose.

I won't go full Rossmann but seriously Appol very bad when it comes to repairability and reliability. But they can release a few manuals and they are absolved for their bullshit?

It's a start but Apple still makes purposefully hard to repair products.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I never claimed the manuals did avsolve them of anything.

I simply said that the manuals are nice and complained about the meaningless Apple hate when the commenter had not even looked at the linked manuals.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Looks more helpful than no manual at all to me. Making the actual replacement parts available for anyone is another thing, though...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

I glanced at your icon and thought, "ha, looks like firewire400", then saw your username hahahahaha love it!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago (4 children)

What is it with the constant cynicism even in the face of actual good news? This is absolutely a step in the right direction on Apple's part.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Because this is not out of the goodness of their little hearts. It's legislated straight out of the EU and huge campaign coverage at just how ant-repair they are, like luis rossman has been covering ad-nauseam

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

we should no expect goodwill from companies, that is why they need to be regulated.

it is actually a better news if it is a response to regulations, that means that the system works, at leas a bit

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What does it matter if the end result is still the same?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Fraud. Because it's fraud.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How big of a rock have you been living under?

https://youtu.be/Z0DF-MOkotA

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

C'moon now. Linking a 40 minute video is not an explanation.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Apple literally only is doing this because the EU forced them. They are an evil company whose entire mo is to keep control over the device you pay for

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Too be fair, they are all evil.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

To varying degrees though. Google is super evil but at least they don't express it via suppressing all choice

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Apple has a long history of working against right to repair and third party repair shops. This includes making it difficult for third parties to source the parts needed and changing the designs to requiring part pairing in the name of security. It got to the point where repair shops were buying broken Apple products so they could hopefully source the parts needed.

Looking through what they provided now, it's basic stuff any third party repair shop could do if they could source the parts. It's useful. However good electronic technicians can go beyond that and do board level repairs. But that requires schematics and diagrams. A lot of times they would have to get those through other parties who in turn got them through less than official means or violated NDAs.

Guess what Apple isn't providing? Board level information. This is just doing the minimum the law requires them to do.

Bonus: Louis Rossmann talks about Apple's history of right to repair [10 minute video]

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

This is clearly just a publicity stunt and means nothing outside of parts availability, right to repair, and reparability.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

I thought this was the onion for a second

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Well that's mighty White of 'em! Are they gonna provide the tools, and not void the "warantee" if you look at their products funny?