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[–] Whorehoarder 171 points 4 months ago (18 children)

Didn't millennials watch it growing up? Someone's not getting their generational terms right

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 50 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Hell, I was even old enough when it was airing to think it was overrated then.

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Seinfeld is one of the best sitcoms of all time.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

See, that's the real issue. I don't have a problem with acknowledging it's high concept, ocassionally funny and mostly easy watching.

But everybody insisting it's endless comedic, best-sitcom-ever brilliance is overrating it. It's overrated.

[–] criitz@reddthat.com 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

It's not overrated. It set the standard. It's easy to call it overrated when you live in world influenced by it. It's like calling the Model T overrated as a car. There's even a TVTrope for this concept. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SeinfeldIsUnfunny

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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 118 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Ummmm, the whole point of the show was that the people were horrible.

The show ended with them jailed after they made fun of a guy who was getting mugged.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 70 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The gang on It's Always Sunny is worse but they are obviously not people we're supposed to empathise with. It's quite a bit less obvious on Seinfeld.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago

Always Sunny was taking the idea of Seinfeld and dialing it up to 11.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I feel like the distinction is that on Sunny the gang is “punished” for their shitty behavior, and on Seinfeld they basically never were. (I don’t include the season finale because that was just a cop-out to give the show an ending.)

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[–] glimse@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I might be overthinking it but feel like Seinfeld was more a show about normal people who sometimes do shitty things - just like real life. I can't think of anything truly horrible any of them did on the show, just a bunch of "social" wrongdoing. Telling a secret, sleeping at work, the perfect comeback, etc. It's famously a show about "nothing"

Then IASIP is about a bunch of assholes riling each other up to be horrible for their own benefit.

I think Seinfeld is the more "important" in the grand scheme of television for it's groundbreaking approach but in a vacuum, IAS is the better show.

[–] hollyberries@programming.dev 18 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Jerry purposely drugging his girlfriend so he could play with her toys was pretty shitty AND horrible.

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[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 75 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Millennial here. I tried to watch Seinfeld back in the day, and I thought it was kind of meh. But there was one character I really hated on the show. He had a whiny pathetic voice, was always complaining about something or another, and was just an awful actor, unlike the rest of the cast. I thought, if they just removed that one guy, the show would be great and I'd enjoy it so much more.

I found out later, that guy was Seinfeld. So... I never really got into the show.

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

THANK YOU! I can't stand that guy. His voice kills me and I never found him funny. Nothing against him personally, he might be a great person, but I can't understand how people can stand the content he makes.

[–] scoobford@lemmy.zip 23 points 4 months ago (4 children)

~~Good~~ news! Seinfeld is a pedophile and supposedly kind of a sociopath. He's also tried to hop on the anti-woke train a couple of times in the past few years.

The man made a major contribution to western cultus as a whole, but man is he a bastard.

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[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 4 months ago (5 children)

He was definitely the weakest actor of the 4, and had the poorest story lines.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 68 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Millennials are like 40 years old now. Does this article writer think Millennial just means "kid"?

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Millennials are like 40 years old now.

PS. I'm not actually 40 but I'm getting there before I even realise it.

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[–] Old_Yharnam@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago

It’s worded like we’re all still in our early 20s.

It’s just hot clickbait garbage for boomers

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[–] stinerman@midwest.social 44 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It's weird that "this group of people don't like that show that you like" is supposed to create some sort of negative reaction. My enjoyment of a thing does not depend on a certain number of other people liking it.

I must be numb to "outrage is the best way to engage people" that everyone uses these days.

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[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are we talking about "Seinfeld", the slightly overrated comedy TV series, or "Seinfeld", the horrible human being?

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 43 points 4 months ago

For the first time? We grew up with this show.

[–] You_are_dust@lemm.ee 43 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We were the ones watching it when it was first airing. I don't think there was anyone in my highschool that wasn't watching it.

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[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It’s not offensive, it’s just not that funny.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 26 points 4 months ago (2 children)

97% of Seinfeld's entertainment value is the bass line.

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[–] letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 38 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Meh, Jerry Seinfeld has been pushing the "I'm too offensive for young people" and "I've been cancelled" nonsense for a while now. He's just old and not funny anymore. Turns out telling the same jokes for 30 years doesn't get a lot of laughs. What is the deal with millennials anyway!

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[–] A7thStone@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'm an Xer and I didn't like Seinfeld, but that's mostly because I don't like embarrassment comedy. It's the same reason I don't like Will Ferrel and Ben Stiller, but to each their own. I don't begrudge anyone else finding it funny, it's just not my vibe.

[–] blipcast@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

I'm not saying you have to like Seinfeld or anything, but I wouldn't consider it embarrassment comedy. It's more about the gang being a bunch of sociopaths, like an early version of IASIP.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

That right there is some clickbait. I'm millennial and I was watching the show when it was on and loved it.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago (4 children)

What‽ I grew up on it and I'm as young as we get. No it's his current stand up that's in poor taste and one night of Kramer's stand-up that's actually offensive

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[–] dumbass@leminal.space 24 points 4 months ago

Would you leave us the fuck alone, we're old now!

[–] LeroyJenkins@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago (4 children)

most of my millennial peers were all in on Friends and thought Seinfeld was pretty much only for old people. it had its cultural moment but it was popular because pretty much everyone older than 30 in the 90s loved the show.

Basically people who are around 50/60 now were the ones who truly enjoyed Seinfeld.

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[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Almost every time an article like this is posted, the contents are the result of one or two comments out of thousands, or a Reddit post that didn't gain much traction outside of "eh, sure, I guess?"

Tangentially related, IMO there should be an "author review" site, where if someone posts a stupid article like this, it is referenced in a database against their name and their frame of reference for the content is called out. Rank "journalists" against this, and eventually the people starting out in the industry posting AI-generated shite that doesn't hold up will start to err on the side of caution.

[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You've just re-invented journalistic standards and peer review.

It is how the news cycle is supposed to work. One journalist says something, others verify or disprove it publicly.

The problem is that there is now no difference between journalism and content or between news channels and platforms.

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[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

it's the laugh track that's offensive.

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[–] whome@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 4 months ago (12 children)

I watched the first episode and found it dull and boring. Is it representative for the whole show?

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 20 points 4 months ago

The past decade of tv has spoiled people with quality TV shows.

Back in the old days of tv, we didn't have story arcs. First seasons of shows were still rough. Networks often gave shows a lot longer of a lifeline to prove themselves. For example: Parks and Rec didn't hit their stride into mid-Season 2.

For 90s shows, I recommend finding a Top 10 episodes list and seeing if you enjoy it.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I found it funny but curb your enthusiasm is much better

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[–] noxy@yiffit.net 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

They said "not that there's anything wrong with that" about gay people in the 90s. WAY better than most of the shit at the time.

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[–] Hotspur@lemmy.ml 17 points 4 months ago

Must be the youngest millennials then, this was airing live when I was a kid and apparently I’m a millennial.

[–] BedInspector@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Not saying it's not funny, but there is definitely stuff in the show that wouldn't fly today. For example there is an episode where George didn't know black people ate salad.

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 27 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I don't like Seinfeld, but isn't George supposed to be an utter dunce?

Like, as a Zoomer, people not being able to tell the difference between portraying bigotry and endorsing it IS an actual problem I see.

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[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I mean, it is offensive. Everyone knows it (I hope).

The actor of Kramer was even caught throwing racist insults in public so you know.

[–] Veedem@lemmy.world 49 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (9 children)

An actor saying the N word and the show being offensive are not anyhow related.

The show is certainly reflective of its time. If someone is offended by it, I won’t tell them that they’re wrong, but I don’t see it as offensive.

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[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Even when it aired, it was walking the line of generally offensive. That line didn't have to move far to tip the show out of favour on average. Seinfeld himself addressed it, initially being upset that his brand of comedy was falling out of favour, but eventually coming to terms with the fact that he himself was out of touch and would benefit from adapting.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 15 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Has he? Last I heard he was still complaining that "yOu CoUlDnT dO sEiNfElD tOdAy BeCaUsE wOkE" with Rob McElhenney begging to differ.

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[–] whome@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I feel like a lot of you assume I'm younger. I'm closer to 50 then I like to admit. I'm just not from the US, maybe that is part of why it didn't click with me.

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[–] ReCursing@lemmings.world 14 points 4 months ago

Millenial here, I always just thought it was shit!

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