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Summary

House Republicans are considering a 20% cut to SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program) benefits, impacting over 22 million households, as part of a $5 trillion deficit reduction plan.

The proposed changes to SNAP would save $247 billion over a decade by rolling back a Biden-era increase tied to the USDA's "thrifty food plan."

Critics argue the cuts could harm vulnerable populations and reduce demand for food production, while Republicans view the changes as a way to curb spending and encourage employment.

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[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 73 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They don't give a shit about harming anyone.

[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 33 points 2 months ago

In fact, they revel in it. Wallowing in the pool of poor people’s tears, ahhhhh so so good.

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They do give a shit. It's their entire goal.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 58 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

reduce demand for food production

...

There's another name for that.

[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, prices are so high because too many people are demanding food. Let some starve to death, boom, less demand and lower prices. Get two birds stoned at once. The second bird being MAGA reveling in other people’s suffering.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago

Let them eat cake.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 56 points 2 months ago (1 children)

since when do they give a fuck about the deficit?

oh, right. it's their battle cry when they're trying to hurt (the 'right') people by cutting essential services.

then they pat themselves on the back as they cut taxes for the wealthy by far more than was 'saved'.

[–] EisFrei@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago

https://www.milwaukeeindependent.com/thom-hartmann/two-santas-strategy-gop-used-economic-scam-manipulate-americans-40-years/

First, the Two Santas strategy dictates, when Republicans control the White House they must spend money like a drunken Santa and cut taxes to run up the U.S. debt as far and as fast as possible.

This produces three results: it stimulates the economy thus making people think that the GOP can produce a good economy; it raises the debt dramatically; and it makes people think that Republicans are the “tax-cut Santa Clauses.”

Second, when a Democrat is in the White House, Republicans must scream about the national debt as loudly and frantically as possible, freaking out about how “our children will have to pay for it!” and “we have to cut spending to solve the crisis!” Shut down the government, crash the stock market, and damage US credibility around the world if necessary to stop Democrats from spending money.

This will force the Democrats in power to cut their own social safety net programs and even Social Security, thus shooting their welfare-of-the-American-people Santa Claus right in the face.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago (4 children)

This is short sighted.

Hungry folks' anger knows no limits. They have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

That's where the part of declaring martial law on day 1 comes into play.

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago

I mean, this is from the people who want to gut the benefits of individuals they trained to be killers.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but under the current misinformation curve the people who rely on government support the most will direct their anger at those that are trying to help them.

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[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And the rich are really tasty.

[–] Johnmannesca@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Empty calories though

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Wait until they find out the SNAP program (aka food stamps) is run by the Department of Agriculture because it’s about increasing demand for agricultural products, not helping the poor. For comparison, TANF (aka welfare) is under the Department of Health and Human Services.

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 9 points 2 months ago

Right, it’s not just the poor lobby that cares about snap. The farmers rely on it a a form of price support. Large landowners have better lobbyists than the poors.

[–] thisorthatorwhatever@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

It's going to be a crazy administration as they randomly wail, fight with each other, piss off their donors.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Republicans considering cutting SNAP benefits as part of ~~deficit reduction plan~~ hurting the poors

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 27 points 2 months ago

Do you want Luigis?

'cuz this is how you get Luigis.

[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Great idea. Take away from those that have nothing, should work out just fine.

[–] Trilobite@lemm.ee 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The world is 9 meals away from anarchy

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[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

People on snap barely get anything as it is. What a shitty thing to do.

[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes this is what all the invading Greenland and annexing Canada rhetoric was hiding.

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[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

SNAP pays out almost nothing already. You can't eat on $292 per month, especially if you're poor enough that you actually qualify for SNAP.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Is that amount for a family, cause I can definitely eat on $292 a month in a very expensive city. I'd need to make adjustments, but it'd easily be doable.

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's for a household of 1, in Milwaukee. I could do it here if I cooked every meal and ate meat at most twice a week.

A person poor enough to qualify for this probably doesn't have time to shop properly and cook for every meal, and probably doesn't have a full kitchen.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

Ya, it'd be a lot of vegetarian meals. If you can get to something like a Sams Club or Costco (although that has it's own cost) you could get things like eggs, rice, oats, and even some spices over a few months to get you going, really cheap compared to other places.

Even being able to get something like a bulk frozen blueberries to be your fruit for the month that you can put in the oatmeal for example would go a long way, but is probably too pricey if you're buying it in small quantities.

Trying to do that at an expensive grocery store and no access to cheaper bulk pricing would make that less comfortable.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You appear to assume everyone has a chest freezer or even a fridge with enough freezer space accommodate these suggestions.

You note the cost of club memberships but ignore the cost of transportation.

I challenge you to live on these suggested diets for a year without going over budget.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You don't need a chest freezer for a 2-3kg bag of frozen veggies and berries. Any standard fridge will fit that with plenty of additional space.

Nor do you need a membership to even get these things at all places, but it can make it cheaper (and likely pay for itself)

I would expect a person this poor to likely have a bus pass, they probably wouldn't be driving. So transportation costs are probably already covered, so the real issue is, is there a place they can buy frozen/bulk food within a reasonable bus distance.

Edit: E.g Krogers in Milwaukee where OP referenced has frozen peas 60oz for $5.29 (NOT on sale), as well as other vegetables. Ideally find a mixed bag. That's your veggies for the week, and it's only $0.75 of you're $9.41 day for eating, and no paid membership. I'm not saying this is good, it's poverty, but it's doable.

Edit: In Log Angeles at Food4Less you can get 80z mixed veggies for $6.99 on sale ($1 off), that's $0.699 a day for 10 days, even cheaper, in LA an even more expensive city! You can even get that down to $0.54 a day at Walmart.

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[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

In Los Angeles I’m paying like $50 for a barebones, mostly produce and raw ingredients shopping trip 1-2 times per week. I’m vegan so I’m not buying milk, eggs, meat, etc. but sometimes I’ll buy processed fake meat (but those prices are insane right now too).

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)

Not that I suggest you do this, but in the context of eating cheap, you can get that cheaper by finding a place that sells larger bags of frozen vegetables, such as the carrot, pea, green bean, corn mixes. Go for the store brand to get that cheapest. They're just as nutritious as they get flash frozen when their nutrients are at their peak. It won't be very exiting though.

You won't have a lot of variety trying to eat on $292 a month.

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[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Right, because THAT'S where the untold billions of dollars are going. Not the defense and weapons spending

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Well, we also have billionaires in this country, when that should not even be a thing. It's time to Make America Great Again, and tax these fuckers at 92%. Like the 1950s.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Conservatives believe you have it too good and that makes you lazy. They promise to make life harder as a way of motivating you to work more.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Encourage employment? Do these people think you can somehow live off snap? It doesn't pay for rent, transportation, cooking utensils, napkins, toilet paper... Anything bit uncooked foods. If you want to cut the money needed for snap, increase minimum wage so they make enough money to pay living expenses while working.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They want you to get a 2nd job, they want you working one extra shift whenever you can.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You work three jobs? Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that."

To a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005

  • George W. Bush

He said that 20 fucking years ago, and the qons have not changed since. America, where you can work your fingers to the bone to get by, isn't that a beautiful thing?

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Their dream American is a 28 year old, married with 3 children, with a car lease, and no savings in their bank account.

He wakes up at 4am each day to drive an hour and a half to start his shift at the widget company, he clocks out at 3 to pick up his kids and eats a quick meal before heading to his 2nd job at McGuffin's where he will work until 9 before heading home to sleep.

This is their ideal person, someone who can't take a single day off or have a moment to themselves without crushing financial consequences. Who must constantly be working and generating value for their employer.

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[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

My son got $150/mo for SNAP. His SSDI got raised by $75/mo so they reduced his SNAP by $75. Not sure what it is down to now after the new increase.

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[–] doctortofu@reddthat.com 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Wow, if they reduce egg prices any more through all those cuts they'll have to start giving them out for free!

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

If you starve to death because you voted for Trump, it's your own damn fault

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

They need higher crime rates to enable pushing for more authoritarian spending on police and enforcement.

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 months ago

Bruh, even the romans knew that bread and circus were all you needed to control the plebs. It's like the Republicans are asking for it.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago

Does anyone even believe in deficits anymore? Like even the rubiest of rubes have been watching trillions of dollars worth of weapons flow out with no debate whatsoever.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago

Because starving the poor has historically always worked out for the wealthy...

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

...and I'm sure all the people that suffer from this will be blaming the motherfucking DEMOCRATS if/when this comes to pass.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago

Well yeah, they shoulda had a majority to prevent it! It’s all their fault! /s

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

They want a 100% cut. Fuck the GQP

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