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[–] [email protected] 71 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I had a dream 15+ years ago where I walked onto a school bus holding a 5ft long tube of fudge striped cookies over my shoulder and Peter Jennings looked up and said "Nice strip of cookies." I was so confused, I woke up and laughed.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is may be the best thing I've ever read on Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

I'm glad you got a kick out of it. My wife still says the line to me a few times a year.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Was jennings the driver or a kid on the bus?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hah, he was just a passenger!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

And he rode and rode!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (10 children)

Cigarettes do not relieve stress- they only cause harm to the smoker and to those around them. Smoking is bad. Don’t smoke.

Edit: Wow, we’ve got a lot of smokers here on lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What? Smokings bad for you? No way. I think they would tell people about it if that was true.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Yeah, they'd probably put some kind of notice on the box or something.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

They do relieve stress though, at a biochemical level. Also they cause harm and you shouldn't smoke. The harm isn't worth it and they cause physical dependency, including elevated stress when you don't smoke that can only be alleviated by smoking, furthering the dependency. Don't smoke.

But lying about the short term benefits is just like DARE equivocating marijuana and hard drugs: people wind up trying it out anyway, realize they were lied to, and disregard the actual beneficial warnings because the first one was obviously a lie.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

needed to be said. thank you

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm told by 2 coworkers they relieve stress but the effect Is so temporary you have to constantly smoke. So it's not worth it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

The harm isn't worth it and they cause physical dependency, including elevated stress when you don't smoke that can only be alleviated by smoking, furthering the dependency.

Correct

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Cigarettes don't relieve stress.

At least not until you've smoked long enough to get addicted.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes. I stopped and started smoking and vaping for the past 20 years.

Cigarettes only relieve stress if you've developed the pathways that let the nicotine behave as a dopamine agonist.

If you give someone who's never smoked a cigarette it's not going to relax them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That was not my experience the first time. The effect was immediate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Wow that's curious. I distinctly remember my first time. I held the cigarette in a strange way so that my hand covered my mouth when I hauled, and my roommate made fun of me lol.

It gave me the spins and kind of perked me up when drinking, but that was the extent of anything noticeable.

The immediate like sedating effect I only noticed when I started smoking in the morning.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I remember mine as well, bummed off a friend driving me to pick up my car that had been towed overnight. I distinctly remember being much less upset after the first drag.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

When I say that they don’t relieve stress, please understand what I mean.

The net stress received from smoking cigarettes is greater than an individual’s short term benefits. Your health will suffer. Your friends and family will suffer. You are modeling to those around you that smoking is acceptable. “Do as I say and not as I do” is not convincing to everyone because we are social creatures who learn by observation.

Smoking also does not provide any tools to properly manage anxiety or any other types of stress. It does not teach you to tolerate your feelings and work through them. Cigarettes are chemically addictive- your body is stressed when it feels the chemical desire for a cigarette. You crave it. It feels good to use it. It entices you to use more. It rewires your brain to think “I feel something. I need it to change. A cigarette will make me feel what I need.” The more someone uses cigarettes, the more dependent they become and the harder it is to quit.

This is not a DARE or Reefer Madness bit. I am calling out the harm it causes to society. When a show uses suicide as a topic, they typically have a disclaimer and the phone number (800-950-626 in the US) of the suicide hotline. I believe this is important because if someone sees a potentially life ending/ruining topic, they need to be made aware of their options and provided with the facts. In the same vein, if someone is spreading misinformation, fake news, lies, it is important to call them out.

We live in a society, and it is the duty of each individual in our society to look out for one another. If even one person reads my comment and thinks “hmm, this guy took this lighthearted topic seriously for some reason. I wonder why”, I’ve done my job.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Stopping to smoke also causes massive amounts of stress, and some people are better off not stopping until their mental health improves.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

No shit. Feels fucking excellent every now and then, though.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO! I'M A MAN NOW!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

👏👏👏

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Smoking actually isn’t bad for you as long as you’re pure of heart

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

With all this climate change and nothing being done about it + with the next four years being what they are I just might start.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's just boomers realizing how they fucked it up for every generation to come.

"New public management"? "Job creators"?! "TRICKLE DOWN ECONOMICS?!" Old man, you'd better smoke two.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nah it's just boomers realizing their children are going to fuck shit up even more than they did.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Naw, this been a long time coming. It's what we call slow moving economic and political development.

Raegen and Thatcher were wrong, new public management was a mistake and "liberalization" really just means "let the finance industry run things - surely what will go wrong?"

So we're fucking up by not changing precedent set, what, 60-70 years ago?

We could compromise and say materialism rots everybody's brains.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

"Trickle Down" was a rebrand. It used to be called Horse and Sparrow Economics.

If Boomers hadn't been so collectively ignorant and narcissistic, they would have maybe realized how fucking stupid their voting choices were. They had the opportunity to get higher educations for the cost of a reasonably priced car, but instead chose to stew in their lack of understanding for 50 years, while gas-lighting everyone within earshot with made up nonsense.

Boomers are precisely why America is in the position it's in now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The think tanks working for the robber barons didn't hit the mark at first, but my god if it didn't take after a white lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

That typo is perfect

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Who is that man and what were the news?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

A serious answer. That's Peter Jennings, he was the new anchor for ABC world news in the 90's and early 2000's. The picture in question if from 9/11. I remember because it was weird to me as a teenager to see someone smoking on live TV. Later, he died from lung cancer, and he gave a statement about it when he was diagnosed talking about how he smoked for many years and that he had quit for a long time but, in his words, was "weak" on 9/11 and smoked a few cigarettes. I don't know how old you are, but if there was ever a time to be like "Whelp, might as well burn one." it was 9/11.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Thanks for the explanation.
Yep... 9/11 especially for people in the USA was hard to live.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

He did announce it while smoking??