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[–] mos@lemmy.world 117 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He’s angry because he lost his election. I’m angry because I fear we lost our country.

[–] radiohead37 29 points 2 months ago

We are not the same.

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 98 points 2 months ago

Maximum age limits should be enacted

[–] Subtracty@lemmy.world 85 points 2 months ago

This is the most incredibly selfish thing I could possibly imagine. An old man moping about his inability to cling to power for another minute. As the next generations look on, begging for someone to act.

He paints Trump as a villain (rightfully so) but is so pathetic that he is unable to rise to any heroism. At least go out swinging.

Don't know what I expected. But it is a slap in the fucking face to hear this.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 79 points 2 months ago (9 children)

"Forced out." welcome to a primary, Biden. Functional parties have them.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (4 children)
[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 54 points 2 months ago (5 children)

A sham primary in which the DNC shut out new candidates, refused to have debates, and then coronated a new candidate anyway.

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’ll catch downvotes for this, but every incumbent president has a primary that is abbreviated and dominated by the incumbent. Biden is no different than Obama, Bush, etc. That said, you can and should still be critical of the DNC not hosting a full primary when Harris was tapped out.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's not an accident though, the party is choosing to shut out new candidates. I think it's always wrong to do, because it puts even more power over our elections into the hands of billionaires.

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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Here in California, we haven't had a presidential democratic primary since 2016, and he wasn't running then. Please explain how he won, when the DNC cancelled the 2020 primary before we even got to vote, and never had a 2024 primary?

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I mean that's obviously a lie. There's documentation that proves primaries were held. I voted in mine.

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[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (15 children)

There was a California primary in 2024.

  • Biden won 3,207,687 votes
  • Williamson won 146,356 votes

Other candidates included

  • Eban Cambridge
  • Gabriel Cornejo
  • Stephen P Lyons
  • Armando "Mando" Perez-Serrato
  • Dean Phillips
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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 65 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Somehow he's not near the top of my list of people to feel sorry for.

Biden has been absolutely consistent about is this belief that he believes that had he stayed in the race, he would have defeated Donald Trump again

And this is one reason why. He was dead weight that held back Harris (or someone more capable that might have emerged if there had been a competitive primary).

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 22 points 2 months ago

The best part of his presidency was letting Warren and Bernie do their own things for Labor and Consumers. It makes me wonder if Harris just had no ideas or if Biden (or his staff) was constantly knee capping her.

[–] radiohead37 18 points 2 months ago (4 children)

He is completely delusional if he thinks he would have outperformed Kamala, let alone win the election.

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[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 58 points 2 months ago

And I'll never stop feeling angry that he didn't decide to step down after one term. The difference is that I'm going to live long enough to see the consequences of that decision.

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 54 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why don't you save the country instead of being a moody bitch? It's entirely possible to do the wrong things for all the right reasons, and still be correct

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 51 points 2 months ago

He's just pissy he didn't get his own chance to fucking lose. Because in his heart, Biden also thinks the problem with Kamala is that she was a black woman. He sees no problem with his policies, his stance on Israel, his willingness to play nice and coy with Republicans, or his impending death. He seriously thinks that only he could "save" America, and that he could have won. All this, despite all the constituents of his party cheering when he stepped down and flooded his replacement with donations and praise.

I'll say it again, rest in piss Brandon. People will compare you to Chamberlain or Brüning, and it will be a disservice to both those men. Your ego caused you to utterly fail your country, and we will remember you as a failure.

[–] UristMcHolland@lemmy.world 48 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I hope by the time the next election comes around, assuming we will ever have another election, that we endorse a new party and completely abandon the democratic party in favor of something like a labor party. Maybe, just maybe, we have seen the Democrats vs. Republicans for the last time.

This country had different parties before, we can have different parties again.

[–] Fandangalo@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago (14 children)

I’m more aligned with Sanders than the democrats. D just feels like neoliberalism protected by identity politics when we need to focus on class issues. Lots of working people can get behind the same idea of wealth inequality. Identity politics has fragmented the focus. I don’t give a shit about Target/rando corp having rainbow clothes: when lots of people cannot afford the clothes, then that’s a problem to solve.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The problem is that there are people who really fucking care about those rainbow clothes. And those people don't think a subset of our population should exist. That's why it's something to give a fuck about.

You don't have to be gay to give a shit about these things. They're talking about ending marriage equality (or "leave it up to the states" which I'm sure won't lead to chaos when states decide not to acknowledge people's marriage certificates).

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Biden has absolutely nobody to blame for him getting ousted but himself.

Dems told him he should not run for a second term, and he ignored them and did it anyway.

Then, he proves all his critics right by absolutely imploding during the debate.

What did he expect?

Time to fade away into obscurity. Thanks for letting your ego get in the way of what was best for America.

[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Dems told him he should not run for a second term, and he ignored them and did it anyway.

During his 2020 campaign he fucking said he only wanted to serve one term, that he wanted to act as a bridge president. Then he proceeded to do absolutely nothing to put Harris in front of the country, absolutely nothing to set her up for an ezpz “incumbent” primary, and cock blocked the entire fucking country until the last minute.

I don’t know if he lied to our faces, changed his mind, or just forgot but fuck him regardless.

Edit - His only fucking job was to win in 2020, then unchain the AG or whoever to bring cases against every single person who used the Constitution as a cum rag as fast as realistically possible. He failed. He won the election in 2020, then just didn’t finish the fucking job. Fucking pathetic joke of an out of touch old.

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[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 40 points 2 months ago

It’s not about you Joe. Get the fuck over yourself.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 38 points 2 months ago (10 children)

He should have announced he was going to be a 1 term president a year prior and gave a chance to find a better Democrat candidate. He's senile and hardly able to run the country. No one over 70 should be president. No one over 70 should be in any office or judicial position. Our country shouldn't be ran by the nearly dead. Even 8f some of them like Sanders are great.

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[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago

He fumbled his chance by historical margins when everybody was already scrutinizing his capabilities. There was no recovering from the debate. His legacy will be refusing to accept reality and bringing about an era that my generation may never recover from.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 32 points 2 months ago (3 children)

You still woulda lost, Joe. Dumb American voters wanted someone to blame for groceries costing more, and that blame went to you.

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[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Fuck this guy. Shouldn’t have been there in the first place. Now, to a large extent because of his decisions, we all have to suffer through the rule of the dumbest, most bigoted and greedy assholes ever.

And one thing, importantly, that President Biden has been absolutely consistent about is this belief that he believes that had he stayed in the race, he would have defeated Donald Trump again. Now, all of this adds up to, I would say, a mood of sadness and sort of this sense of tragedy here at the White House,” concluded Lee. “Those around him believing and actually hoping that when history judges President Biden years from now, that it will be a little bit more forgiving than how the president is being widely judged, at least today, Jake. ”

Emphasis mine. The level of hubris is genuinely jaw-dropping.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Would you have felt more or less angry keeping your promise not to run again Joe? Sounds like a you problem.

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[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 24 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I love Joe Biden, always have. It seems that he lost a great deal of cognitive function over the last 8 years, and this fact was hidden from everyone outside of his circle, could have been his decision, but again loss of cognition means it also could not have been. The fact that Merritt Garland was sandbagged by Republicans which ended his nomination for Supreme Court Justice at the end of Obamas term, made him an excellent nominee for Attorney General and head of The Department of Justice, but the way he was slow rolling the prosecutions for Trump, when they should have been layups, and the way Garland couldn't adjust and overcome the Trump lawyer onslaught of tactics to delay, doomed Bidens chances at a second term, and American democracy itself. Joe as President was responsible to oversee Garland, and they both dropped the ball in bringing Trump to justice, but the buck stops with Joe. If there's anything at all to be angry about, it's Joe should have protected us from Trump returning, and he failed spectacularly, and now it's all over.

[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Garland was a republican and a compromise supreme court pick. The hope was republicans would hedge their bets and confirm him. Getting a guaranteed pick they liked in place of a possible Trump pick.

After Trump won Democrats should have dropped Garland like a ton of bricks. Instead they did what they usually do and went all on one their failed compromises position after Republicans failed to compromise.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Garland did what he was hired to do. He slow walked the investigations so Biden could run as second worst to trump a second time.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 24 points 2 months ago

To be fair though im in a rather dark mood myself.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

He should be feeling angry he's going to be remembered for helping Israel commit genocide, refusing to step aside and let the younger generation lead, and enabling fascism, but his hubris won't allow for that.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (3 children)

But not angry enough to do anything helpful.

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[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 20 points 2 months ago

If he's bitter, just imagine how the rest of us feel, watching him disappoint us as we expected he would but hoped he wouldn't.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What does this say about Biden's faith in Harris? I always kind of doubted that he actually wanted Harris, and suspected Harris was kind of foisted upon him. If he really believed in her as a person and/or politician, why would he be sitting here pouting and saying that he should've run instead? The whole camaraderie between them always felt kinda shallow and forced, and this really sends that feeling for me.

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[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 15 points 2 months ago (4 children)

"Being forced out" is a funny way to spell "losing the election".

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You shouldn't have run for a second term, old man!

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