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ID: ally @missmayn posted: "the democrats were more energized and organized against campus protests than the current authoritarian takeover."

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 101 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Can't escape the braindead c/Politics users even in this comments thread bruh.

People out here still blaming voters as if it isn't the literal textbook definition of a politician to meet consituent demands for their vote.

Not only was the DNC content in allowing Trump to win, they were content in losing just to protect Israel. a

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[–] eagleeyedtiger@lemmy.nz 68 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

George Carlin said it years ago but it bears repeating:

“But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions.

Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want.

Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That's against their interests. That's right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago. They don’t want that.

You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this fucking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club.

And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care.

Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who don’t give a fuck about them. They don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t give a fuck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday.

Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.”

Unless America finds a way to get the money out of politics, I don't think it's problems will ever get fixed by politicians. The class divide will widen and ultra wealthy will grab more money and power, while those below will be busy with culture war distractions and not focused on the class war.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The french did a pretty good job cleaning up.

There was a lot of turmoil before they stablized on the respectable undomesticated society they have today.

Maybe it could happen again?

[–] eagleeyedtiger@lemmy.nz 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I guess it's up to the American citizens. I wonder how much worse it'll become before they start really fighting back.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Every society is 3 missed meals from a revolution.

Most of the country already lives paycheck to paycheck. If most people became unemployed and couldn't find work they'd be homeless in less than a year.

They have plenty of circus, but bread (or eggs) is going to get more expensive.

Idk where the edge is but I think if our incompetent government doesn't push Americans over the edge soon climate change probably will.

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[–] dariusj18@lemmy.world 64 points 1 month ago (12 children)

I hadn't considered this until this post, but where are those protesters now?

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 133 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Protests have been ongoing. Just off camera, mostly. Some students got suspended from the schools, other schools have been banning groups from organizing over pro-palestinian issues.

I mean, the Israel lobby won.

[–] Bacano@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just off camera

This is the important part. Corporate propaganda outlets will not report on burgeoning political movements that threaten the status quo, unless they are absolutely forced to, and only then to deride and ridicule them in order to discourage their growth.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Revolution_Will_Not_Be_Televised

The revolution will not be right back after a message about a white tornado, white lightning, or white people

You will not have to worry about a dove in your bedroom, the tiger in your tank, or the giant in your toilet bowl

The revolution will not go better with Coke

The revolution will not fight germs that may cause bad breath

The revolution will put you in the driver's seat

The revolution will not be televised

Will not be televised

Will not be televised

Will not be televised

The revolution will be no re-run, brothers

The revolution will be live

[–] kozy138@lemm.ee 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I thought the USA was the Israel lobby 🤔

They are and they won.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 month ago

The media has no reason to cover the protests anymore

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago

Being deported

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[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

You know Democrat politicians are rich oligarchs too, So it's in their interests just like the Republicans to protect their money bins. We need to stop worrying about Republicans and Democrats and start worrying about us working people. Free Luigi!

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

People also talked more about Will Smith slapping Chris Rock than most of Trump's recent actions. Welcome to Idiocracy. Hey I think Oww My Balls is on!

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Were you not paying attention? The school admin will step in to help attack the pro-Palestine students. They already have been.

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America is a one party state. But, in typical American extravagance, they have two of them.

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Ah yes. Fascists taking over the county? Time to blame their opposition. Help their opposition? Nah, I'd rather blame them.

[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 63 points 1 month ago (5 children)
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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

Nobody was blaming anyone in the post, just making an observation.

But yes the first step in growth is realizing your mistakes and they refuse to do that. Fascism depends entirely on lazy, uninvolved and conflict averse people. Nowhere in the world has fascism ever come to power without the support of "centrists". The US democratic party is a party of centrists with no goals and no interest in actually doing anything. They have created the perfect breeding ground for a fascist takeover.

I have posted it before and i will post it again, the democratic party is not free of blame. They cant just lean back and blame everything on Trump or Musk or voters.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 month ago (20 children)

The Democrats will learn the wrong lesson from this: "We need to convince more Republicans to vote for us!"

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[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I dislike the democratic party as well, but that just flat-out isn't true. There are focused efforts to stop most of Trump's exec orders and many other actions (as they relate to him trying to act like he has control of governmental spending, etc.) as many are blatantly illegal or unenforceable and also to stop Musk. Now, senators and house members aren't doing a ton, but there's not much they can do - they are a bicameral minority. They actually are threatening a government shutdown, but that hasn't occurred yet. Most of the resistance is rightly coming from the judicial branch.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Sounds like confusion stems from you believing words and actions to be of equal value. Which is typical for any defense of Democrats.

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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (7 children)

As a Canadian, American voters and the left in particular told democrats to eat shit and go away this past election. They allowed this trump takeover and called democrats fascists. Now you want those same democrats to save you? They’re gonna take a 4 year vacation and watch you people reap what you sowed, while they enjoy their money and vacation homes. It’s absurd that the American left has become so toxic, splintered, and frankly easily played by the right.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Internet commenters were mean to us so now we're gonna do what we can to never hold power again" sure is a strategy, if you're 8.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 month ago

It's pretty much the same "argument" structure as the Far-Right's "I've became a Racist because those other people were calling me a Racist".

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 month ago (6 children)

American voters and the left in particular told democrats to eat shit and go away this past election

Nope. You've got it EXACTLY backwards.

The Left implored the Dem leadership to learn from their past mistakes and listen to their base.

In response, the Dem leadership refused to listen and their apparatchiks everywhere, including on Lemmy, called the Left Trump fans, false flag operatives and a ton of other bullshit.

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You should stop getting your US news from mainstream outlets. You’re just rattling off propaganda.

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[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Focus up during our upcoming elections, because it seems like you fall for social media propaganda easily.

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[–] yarr@feddit.nl 13 points 1 month ago

It's cuz college students are easier to kick but Republicans fight back. The Democrats are doing their usual bit of having a few committees to complain while the republic burns and alternatively hand-wringing "I wonder why we lost the election????"

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