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There absolutely is way. The dems are routinely ineffective and they lost a lot of votes from 2020 because of the whole "Harris backs Israel in a genocide" thing.
Just cause the greater evil won doesn't mean the left needs to start peddling unfounded "stolen election" conspiracy theories. It's completely reasonable that enough people realized they fucked up by voting for Republicans, Third Party, or abstaining and took this as an opportunity to refute the actions of the current administration.
What if there was statistical evidence of probable tampering?
Plus Trump, in his rambling, said something that heavily implies tampering with vote counting machines.
I've also seen evidence that the same systemic election interference, voter purges/disenfranchisement, gerrymandering, etc — the leading reason for GOP wins over the last 20 years, and were never legitimately addressed or removed — were more than enough to secure Trumps win of the EC.
What if there was statistical evidence of probable tampering?
All of the allegations listed on this site have fairly logical explanations when given context.
Republicans pushed against mail in ballots hard, so it makes sense that Harris would do better with mail ins and trump would do better with early voting. It also makes sense that trump voters mainly cared about the presidential election compared to Harris voters. It also makes sense that Harris underperformed as Democrats didn't get to participate in a primary. Basically it makes sense for there to be abnormalities in an abnormal election, that doesn't mean there's "statistical evidence of probable tampering".
Plus Trump, in his rambling, said something that [heavily implies tampering with vote counting machines
Right...... But this means that we would be questioning trump's honesty based on assuming that trump is being honest on this particular subject. He's a troll who likes to stir the shit and make people assume he's more competent than he really is, the same as musk.
It does not behoove progressives to question the reliability of elections without real evidence. Having people question the reliability of elections only serves conservative agenda of making it harder for people to vote.
Abnormal Clustering: In contrast to Election Day voting, Early Vote results display an unusual pattern: once approximately 250 ballots have been processed a visible shift is observed, resulting in a high degree of clustering and unusual uniformity. This is a departure from expected human voting behavior.
This is not logically explained by an "abnormal election".
You honestly think the party of "Every accusation is a confession" who spent 4 years screaming about election fraud didn't commit election fraud?
No way! Next you'll tell me the only fraud that was found is from Republican electors!
The problem is the down ballot. I'm having trouble believing that a whole lot of people went out there and voted for Trump for president, and Democrats everywhere else.
I understand staying home. I understand voting Republican. But lots and lots of split ballots?
A decent number of trump voters only voted for Trump. They left the downballot blank because they don't really care about anything but Trump
A disproportionate amount...
Only in swing states...
Just enough to not trigger an automatic recount...
Part of musks "outreach" plan was reaching low propensity voters and telling them essentially "don't worry about the ballot if you dont know who else to vote for, the most important thing is voting for Trump."
That's why we saw a lot of "bullet ballots."
There were also a lot of idiots who voted for Trump and their local Democrat. AOC had this happen when talking with her constituents. She said their response was "you're both (seemingly) authentic, Trump and you are real where everyone else in Washington are fake, greedy, lying politicians."
There really are just a metric fuckton of idiots out there that don't pay enough attention.
I don't like Trump's weird remarks about Elon knowing voting machines, but I really don't think they rigged this election by that method.
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It IS really weird how all the tankie types love both to tell you that your votes don't matter and Trump bragging about rigging the election shouldn't be investigated, isn't it?
There's actually quite a lot of evidence.
https://electiontruthalliance.org/
https://smartelections.substack.com/p/so-clean
The tabulators switched after 500 votes and restricted dems to 45%, the data looks artificially smoothed to hide this. The same pattern is visible on elections going back to 2014.
They also found the remote access code for Dominion machines on a public repo with the private admin password in it, there's evidence of breaches all around the country from people associated with Trump. They got caught red handed, told us they were doing it the full time.
And that's before we get to the voter suppression, and 10-20% of the country being in a state of algorithmically induced psychosis.
I don't disagree with the sentiment, but I think it's more to do with them saying how great "the economy" is. They didn't even try to appeal to the working class. They just told them they should be appreciative. They lost because they eschewed the left.
People on the left need to stop peddling this “Trump stole the election” stuff. It plays right into his rhetoric about our elections being rigged and allows him to cry again whenever his side loses. The comment in the screenshot looks like a fucking bot anyway.
Dems didn’t dump Biden early enough and the average American voter is dirt fucking stupid. Plus you’re telling me there’s some sort of massive conspiracy to alter votes in 7 different states with separate election systems and no one blabbed?
While I agree that every accusation is a confession until we see some hard proof that’s peer reviewed I’m skeptical. We shouldn’t be focusing on the past anyway, it doesn’t solve our current problems. We need to focus on the present and future.
Agreed. Fact is I don't think they even needed to. The electoral college does most of it for them, and then when over half the nation doesn't vote, and on top of that many Democrats just didn't vote, it's pretty obvious exactly what happened.
People were unhappy with inflation and stuff and so they vote out the incumbent, it's as simple as that. 100% the opposite party wins if things are going very badly.
He didn't "handily win" he won by 1-2 points in the swing states.
It tracks with an anti-incumbent sentiment, people are not happy with inflation so they voted against the incumbent, they're still not happy and still voting against the incumbent.
And he only won because a few million people who voted in 2020 sat on their asses instead of voting this time.
It seems like supporting a genocide depresses turnout. Democratic consultants, take note.
Democrat politicians have already decided "DEI" was the problem. Good luck getting those spineless cowards something resembling a moral framwork.
The only notes they pay any attention to are Federal Reserve Notes.
Part of why Trump wins is simply because there's more brand recognition for him. He gets media written about him very easily and his photo gets splashed around BY BOTH SIDES!
In today's politics there's nothing worse than becoming "what's his name" - "the other guy".
In the age of the para-social relationship the big names get the votes, regardless of whether they're liked or a reasonable choice.
Oddly enough the establishment left seem to think politics is a meritocracy. Which is idiotic and part and parcel with them being generally out of touch.
I feel strongly that the world has Mark Burnett (creator of The Apprentice) to thank for the presidencies of DJT being inflicted upon it.
Election denialism seems to just now be a feature of American politics
I’m sorry, but this is the most egregious example of “both sides do it” that I’ve ever seen.
The republicans made denying the election a central pillar of their platform, and the lies was repeated by virtually every leader in the party. And a violent mob stormed the capitol in an attempt to overturn the vote.
Show me a fragment of that being done by the left.
Why aren't we talking more about all the mail in ballots that were destroyed in mailbox arson attacks or by postal workers?
Yeah, something about this shift in focus feels like a psyop. We have clear evidence of targeted voter suppression, destruction of ballots, etc. In a two party system, fraudulently removing your opponent's votes has exactly the same impact as creating fake votes for yourself. That's already clear evidence of fraud, why are we redefining "evidence of fraud" as a new thing that we haven't found yet?
At this point anyone who denies Elon stole the election is just as wilfully ignorant and naive as I was when I thought Trump didn't collude with Russia. How much blatant evidence do you need before you admit that the cheating fascists are cheating fascists? (they never will because democrats are doing literally nothing to stop Elon illegally dismantling the government) (edited to fix an autocorrect)
your takeaway is a lot different from mine: here i'm thinking, how useless must this this katie whittington be.. LOL 9+k votes (total) between them. 14 percent of the district voted in this special election. tell us again how its IMPOSSIBLE kamala lost her swing states in the general presidential election.
Hello, sorry to disturb, can you add his name or surname or political party in the description or title so I can filter this out please?
Noteworthy enough, Trump's aggregate approval ratings is unfortunately quite high for the first month in office compared to before.
I mean he's still the lowest ever, ignoring his last term. And it's within MoE.
It's also now dropped. 37pt swing for GenZ, +18 to -19
Let's be frank: it was a special election where about a tenth of eligible voters turned out.
Trump ain't gonna see an FDR level midterms victory, unless he manages to destroy the American democracy totally, but I wouldn't look at this as evidence of some major shift by itself.