Luigi has become such an icon and crystallized so many frustrations that I'm hopeful his conviction will finally spark the rebellion this country desperately needs. Hopefully in time before it turns into a fully fledged dictatorship - so, pretty soon.
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It’s literally been the only light in the world of darkness for over a decade.
I started the Luigi Mangione “documentary” on HBO (I hesitate to call it that instead of what it is, propaganda)…and I didn’t even get 10 minutes into it and they were going on and on about how the UH CEO was such a good family man with so much good potential.
Gag!! 🤮
Which is funny because everything I’ve heard about him is that he was a huge prick.
I haven’t finished the doc, and I’m not sure I’ll be able to. It’s just offensive intellectually.
That reminds me of when I tried to watch the Hilary Clinton one on Netflix and the intro was just like five minutes of her shit talking Bernie Sanders and his supporters, and then the intro song was a punk song by The Interrupters. I wanted to throw the fuck up.
Omg! I’m glad I missed that one.
Yeah I shut it off after that. It was clear to me that this wasn’t going to be an informative documentary.
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Wait wait wait, hold up. You're telling me the CEO of an insurance company was a huge prick? Nah, there's no way, I don't believe you. That's simply not possible.
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This is so ridiculous. He killed a dude. That's worthy of the death penalty (not in Texas)!? People have done worse to many people, or children, or... and not been sentenced to death.
Even if you're 100% against murder in all circumstances and feel he should be locked up forever, you have to see this is just CEO's exercising their outsized influence to discourage further punishment of the 1% and corporate leaders that prey on Americans...
I see this as "if I'm going to get the death penalty anyway, might as well take out as many of them as I can."
Trump himself and all of his rich friends on Epstein's island have done way worse than Luigi. At least I consider the systematic rape of children and human trafficking worse than killing a mass murderer.
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Murder is legal in self-defense or to save the live of another.
That's how you need to look at this.
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They're not even going to pretend that people are equal. The Donvict, President Musk, and the MAGAstappo deeply believe that rich white men are worth more than anyone who isn't one of them, and will use the full force of the law as they interpret it to protect their interests.
Just you wait. They're going to push for laws specifically protecting what they'll call "High Value Citizens" or something to that effect. Give it time.
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This is so ridiculous. He killed a dude. That’s worthy of the death penalty (not in Texas)!?
goes looking for the charges
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Brian_Thompson
Charges
Federal
- Using a firearm to commit murder
- Interstate stalking resulting in death
- Stalking through use of interstate facilities resulting in death
- Discharging a firearm that was equipped with a silencer in furtherance of a crime of violence
New York
- First-degree murder in furtherance of terrorism
- Second-degree murder (2 counts)
- Second-degree criminal possession of a weapon (2 counts)
- Third-degree criminal possession of a weapon (4 counts)
- Fourth-degree criminal possession of a weapon
- Second-degree criminal possession of a forged instrument
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwypvd9kdewo
Mr Mangione is facing 11 state criminal counts in New York, including first-degree murder and murder as a crime of terrorism.
If convicted of all the counts, he would face a mandatory sentence of life in prison without the possibility of parole.
Federal prosecutors have also separately charged Mr Mangione for using a firearm to commit murder and interstate stalking resulting in death. Both charges could make him eligible for the death penalty.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luigi_Mangione
Stalking: Interstate via traveling from Georgia to New York
Stalking: Interstate via use of a cellphone and the Internet
New York State doesn't have capital punishment. So I think that it's the interstate aspect that made it federal jurisdiction and thus a capital crime. Otherwise, he'd just be facing life in prison without possibility of parole.
Wait, how is it two counts of murder? Are CEOs worth double points?
Hmm. That's a good question; I don't know of a legal doctrine that does that. But it's three counts -- one in the first degree, and two in the second degree.
kagis
I can't find someone discussing this case in particular in a quick couple searches, but this does have another case
a policeman who killed a single person
who was charged with multiple counts of murder as well.
This is Illinois state law, but I'd guess that it probably works the same way elsewhere.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Ask_Lawyers/comments/1eiev8h/three_murder_charges_for_killing_one_person/
Hello,
I was reading about the murder of Sonya Massey by an Illinois police officer and saw that he's been charged with three counts of first degree murder. I suppose what confuses me is that there was only one victim. Why do some states apply multiple murder charges when there is only one victim? Intuitively that seems odd.
It's probably three different theories of the crime. The Illinois Murder 1 statute does have 3 theories:
Sec. 9-1. First degree murder.
(a) A person who kills an individual without lawful justification commits first degree murder if, in performing the acts which cause the death:
(1) he or she either intends to kill or do great bodily harm to that individual or another, or knows that such acts will cause death to that individual or another; or
(2) he or she knows that such acts create a strong probability of death or great bodily harm to that individual or another; or
(3) he or she, acting alone or with one or more participants, commits or attempts to commit a forcible felony other than second degree murder, and in the course of or in furtherance of such crime or flight therefrom, he or she or another participant causes the death of a person.
Each theory that the prosecutor thinks applies needs to be charged. (You can't convict someone of something you forgot to charge them with.) They do this in case one theory ends up falling through. Maybe they think it was intentional, but if they can't prove it was intentional, they think they can definitely prove that he knew there was a strong probability of death, and if they can't prove either of those mental states, they think they can still prove that it happened during the commission of a felony. (I don't know the facts of this case so I'm just speaking in generalities/hypotheticals.)
But even if he were convicted of all 3, the counts would merge and the sentence would not be 3x as long.
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It pisses me off that he can get charged si much for one potential crime. How can he get TWO counts of 2nd degree if it's one murder?
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People kill people in war and they don't go to jail. Luigi fought for us in the war against abusive healthcare monopoly prices. He is a hero and should be freed.
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For science, here's the fund if you're curious...
I’m glad this turned out to be legit. I had wallet out on day one of this campaign.
It’s literally for science, considering the opposition.
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If he's actually put to death, he'll become a martyr. Saint Luigi Mangione. If this doesn't spark a revolution, we're fucking toast. I hate this fucking timeline.
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Rich fucks are afraid he might go after them if he gets out of jail one day.
Even moreso, I think they're worried this will normalize violence against their class, so they want to make an example of him. One Luigi can be imprisoned or executed; a thousand Luigis is a bigger problem.
I like the sound of one thousand Luigis
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Trump, in an executive order: "The Government's most solemn responsibility is to protect its citizens from abhorrent acts, and my Administration will not tolerate efforts to stymie and eviscerate the laws that authorize capital punishment against those who commit horrible acts of violence against American citizens."
Abhorrent acts like denying over 1/4 of healthcare coverage claims? Abhorrent acts like demanding surgeons scrub out and immediately call back the insurer to justify the surgery that they were in the middle of performing?
No, of course not.
The other side of that coin is that capital punishment doesn't protect anyone from anything. In fact, it puts us all in more danger for a variety or reasons, including:
- The State can kill you with impunity if so desired
- Where capital punishment exists, people who commit crimes are more likely to escalate to more heinous acts in order to evade capture
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He killed one of the Kings white stags on his lands.
St. Luigi of Hood.
He didn't even kill. He's innocent.
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Good. They should try to get the death penalty which will put the jury under the maximum pressure to nullify.
I wonder if some of the legal fund can be used for public service announcements to educate the public on jury nullification. IIRC judges don't like to hear that kinda talk in court.
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Viva la révolution? 🔪
If Luigi Mangione get killed he will live forever as a martyr of the workers. His name will forever be etched into history and a new wave of revolutions will arrive, a working class united against the rising tide of fascism.
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What comes around goes around Donnyboy. The next president could do the same to you for treason.
Bold of you to assume there will be a next president.
People who think you're being flippant absolutely do not understand the gravity of what's happening right now.
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Biden had the chance with the backing of the supreme court and their ruling on "official actions" on top of the already strong legal case, but he didn't because the ruling class sticks together no matter how much they talk about "danger to democracy".
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President Donald Trump ordered the attorney general to pursue the death penalty "for all crimes of a severity demanding its use" in an executive order signed January 20. The order ended the moratorium on federal executions enacted by former President Joe Biden's administration.
free luigi <3
Killing someone is exactly how you get a really fucking angry crowd who will remember his name seek revenge.
I think there's even a word for it. Let me go ask my friend Marty R.
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Love it. He should go free.
Trump freed 1500 criminals who wanted to kill elected officials in a terrorist-style seige of the capital.
But yeah, go punish a national hero.
US Government wants to kill a guy for politcal reasons.
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