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My question really, who is buying tesla's these days, and is that even a noteworthy percentage of musks income these days.
Honestly it looks to me like musk is just adapting to leaching off the government anyway. Also throwing in the pivot of basically getting trump to commit to buying (Edit due to incorrect information:) Vehicles from tesla for military use. I mean yes absolutely don't give him the extra stream of income... but, but I can't help but feel this is rather toothless.
Musk's net worth is largely tied to Tesla's market cap. Most of his wealth is in those shares
Make the brand extremely toxic and start affecting the share price. People are investing in the company not for logical reasons, but primarily emotional ones. People seeing mass anger and protest of Teslas hit the emotion part
commit to buying military cybertrucks
I just want to be clear that they order was for armored Teslas in general, not specifically Cybertrucks.
Armored vehicles tend to be standard vehicles retrofitted with armor. This could mean any model of Tesla, not specifically the Cybertruck, especially since Musk already suspended Cybertruck production at the end of 2024.
I just keep seeing repeat that it's going to be Cybertrucks but literally the evidence does not bear out it being Cybertrucks, especially since production of Cybertrucks was already suspended.
EDIT:
Also, assuming it's a Cybertruck is literally buying into and re-enforcing the marketing of the Cybertruck being a powerful armored vehicle to begin with. We all know that's not true.
Valid point, though still key point is... They are getting the US government to buy tesla's... which helps take some of the load off needing consumers to buy them.
Yes, that is the main point, but we undermine the main point by making up bullshit.
What do you mean "adapting" he has never done anything but Leach off the govt. Tesla isn't so much a car company as it is a carbon credits company that sells govt carbon credits to other car manufacturers. Other than that, SpaceX is basically fully funded by fed contracts and boring by state and municipal contracts.
Like the idea that he is even a decent businessman is a wild exaggeration. He's been gaming the system and leaching off the taxpayers from the jump
Its not like he started Tesla or SpaceX anyway, they try to keep him as far away from operations as possible.
My question really, who is buying tesla’s these days, and is that even a noteworthy percentage of musks income these days.
That's a very good question honestly. For anyone that cares to get a rough estimate of purchase date/support before doing something rash (unlikely, but hey, as an owner from 2018 that doesn't like any other reasonably affordable EV options and hates being associated with this dickbag)... Tesla switched from Chrome door handles and camera housings to Black (chrome delete was already by far the most popular aftermarket change, Tesla just started doing it themselves) around the Model Y launch in March 2019. So if you see a Tesla with Chrome handles and camera housings, it predates at least the recent Elon spiral into Fascism fueled by Ketamine™.
If you weren't already boycotting everything Elon touches what the fuck is wrong with you?
Better late than never, I say. Better to praise new good behavior than complain about the delay!
Does it count as boycotting if you could never afford it in the first place?
just makes the boycotting that much easier.
As a current Tesla owner, can I just say that I bought my car long before this man went (fully) off the rails. Selling my car won't hurt him, only myself. Please don't view my car as support for this piece of shit.
May I suggest a bumper sticker indicating you don't support him or the company any longer?
As a current owner that can't financially walk away for another 2 or so months at best, what sticker is best?
I'm also going to replace the emblems that are removable with Luigi logos and add bear resist stickers but...I dunno.
Thing is, any damage done could potentially lengthen the time until I can exit.
Fuck Elon. I hope he gets cancer.
There's lots of "I bought this before I knew he was crazy" variants out there.
But if you're really committed and want to design something unique, I'll laser engrave it on something for you for free. I can do plastics, wood, and metal that can be attached with glue or magnets. Or I can laze a template for you if you'd like to paint it on.
I think any expression of regret works as an anti-Swasticar marking
If I see anyone driving a Tesla they’re a piece of shit to me. Stop making excuses and get rid of it. If you own a Tesla you’re not struggling, you can take the loss.
You’re probably one of the people who dumped all their Bud Light that they already purchased after the trans can issue.
Or one of the people who burned all their Nike apparel that they already purchased after that one dude kneeled.
Or one of the people who smashed their satellite radio equipment that they already purchased after one of the price hikes.
I say to you: put up or shut up. Either bond out the money so that OP has enough money to buy a compatible EV (INCLUDING charging network) after selling their Tesla or STFU.
I know which one this keyboard warrior is going to pick.
I get that and it could happen to any brand (CEO has views that people don’t agree with - although this case is extreme).
Look at Bud Light / Nike / etc.
Destroying something you already own isn’t going to affect Elon; it’s going to affect someone that’s just trying to get by.
But if someone else buys used and not new, it still lowers direct sales for Tesla.
Technically the used market value can negatively affect the new market value of a brand. More people selling Tesla at lower price means people looking to buy are more tempted with used than new, and those buying new see the value decrease more off the lot.
TSLA down 7.27 (2.15%) today. I’ll check tomorrow and hope for this to become a trend.
The showrooms are still standing, so I don't think the Yankees are protesting hard enough.
They should call the French.
Considering the number of "the French give up" jokes made by Americans I find it hilarious that Americans won't even try in the first place. I know who the real losers are.
Well....If the French hadnt assisted the Americans in their revolution, the English would have kept them as a colony and we wouldnt all be in this mess right now.
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And as Musk wreaks irreparable damage to his personal brand, Tesla sales are tanking, especially in Europe: In Germany, sales plunged by 59% in January, following Musk’s endorsement of the country’s far-right AfD party. They were also down 63% in France year-over-year, in January.
The EV-maker’s net income in the fourth quarter of 2024 fell 71% from the same time in the previous year [...]
You love to see it.
Here's an idea. We take all the money from the nazi CEO and solve world hunger. It's a simple as that lol.
Funny you mentioned that!
https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/18/tech/elon-musk-world-hunger-wfp-donation/index.html
That's with only 6 billions. Imagine how we could turn this world upside down simply with a wealth cap. Capitalism has operate such a deep brainwashing to the human kind, to the point were people are willing to let the planet disappear to get a shot a being rich.
Later: "Due to the struggling stock market and their essential nature to the economy, we have no choice but to bail out Tesla Motors."
Tesla has become the official automobile brand of magastan. When you see one rolling down the road, or more likely stuck in 2 inches of snow, at least you'll know where its owner stands on things like equality and the new national norm of fascism.
As a Tesla owner, this is 100% untrue. I'm extremely progressive and LGBTQIA+. I now HATE Musk and I'm exactly the kind of person Musk hates. I bought a Tesla when Musk was in his "seems a bit crazy but wasn't a Trump supporter or a Nazi" phase. Many people bought them being even less aware of his antics until recently.
My financial situation, leaving the US in a few months, makes selling it and buying another vehicle a very stupid idea. Others are now underwater on their loans since their value has taken a shit. I have friends who own Teslas that like their cars and don't want to sell just because the CEO turned out to be a Nazi fuck.
It's easy to paint people with a broad brush, but it's the same lazy ideology the MAGAs use. Be better.
Edit: I'm glad the value is tanking, but I'd rather Musk be ousted or, better yet, be given a little impromptu extra ventilation in his braincase. I love/loved my car but now it's tainted and I hate that.
If you're truly on the side of good, sell that thing. Not sure what else to tell you, but we're at a point in history where lines need to be drawn. I can tell you with zero hesitation, that if I owned a Tesla before MAGA decided it was going Eastern European strongman autocracy, that's what I would do.
We're about to incur thousands of dollars of expenses uprooting our lives to flee persecution. I can't justify selling it, buying a another car, paying associated taxes and fees, then selling that vehicle in a few months when this move is wiping out our bank account already.
And what does that get me other than making a statement? It's only because of people like you that I have to worry about driving it anywhere.
Cybertrucks, maybe. But the sedans were, for a long time, the only real EV game in town. Owning them now does nothing to enrich Musk, and selling them does nothing to harm him. In fact, a mass selloff (of vehicles, not shares) may very well be helpful to his bottom line, since if you increase the used stock you make buying a dealer-new Tesla more attractive (when a bunch of them sit on a dealer lot all shiny, they're essentially advertisements). Plus, if you replace one with a gas vehicle, you're enriching the petroleum lobby that also helped put ~~Musk~~ Trump in office.
Tesla owners who care about making a difference should reduce waste by hanging on to their vehicles until they're falling to pieces (which won't take long in the case of the cybertruck), and then replace it with a low-cost EV made by someone else. In the meantime, cancel any recurring subscriptions on the vehicle, put a meaningful statement of resistance on the bumper, drive it to protests and campaign events for non-fascist candidates, and use it to contribute significant mutual aid within your community.
I can never tell if you lot are just your typical purity testing Americans, well meaning but dimwitted „allies" or trolls sewing divisiveness amongst actual allies. Regardless, this rhetoric is indicative of why your country is imploding.
Hear me out. Tesla makes (or at least made) innovative cars, they persued their vision of electric vehicles and made EVs a commonplace option for the average consumer. They needed Musk's capital to do that. They are still capable of doing great things... But not with Elon at the helm. The best thing we can do, even if you like your Model 3, or even your damn Cybertruck, is to get Elon out of Tesla.
That means boycotts. Don't use their chargers, don't rent or buy their cars, don't subscribe to their full-self driving, and black them out on social media.
Even if Musk gets fired, he'll still own a huge percentage of the stock. If the goal is to hurt his net worth, then the boycott shouldn't end with his dismissal.
Yeah I got a tesla and still retain my stocks in tesla from years back. Ever since I realized how shitty Elon is, I haven't bought any more. Though, I haven't pulled out either because elon can be replaced, and I think the company is still capable of innovation.
I'm not really qualified to give stock advice, but from what I understand, Tesla's stock price is seriously over-valued for what they produce, and a large chunk of it's price is speculation on what Elon is going to do. When it becomes clear to even the dumbest investor that Elon is toxic, that shit is going to tumble fast. IMO, it's a big wave that has to crash down at some point. Sell high.
Not a stock market expert though, talk to someone who knows their shit about it.
Better than nothing, but not good enough. Please visit your local government buildings and get involved. Not buying Teslas won't make a difference like actual difference-making will.