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The only person to talk about backing out of NATO since its creation has been Putin/Xi and Trump/Musk. So why wouldn't everyone think it?
NATO is Russia/China's greatest deterrent. It's literally devastating to our national security to pull out--so clearly only a bad actor would want that.... It's pretty goddamn obvious.
The only person to talk about backing out of NATO since its creation has been Putin/Xi and Trump/Musk.
That's not true. Ron/Rand Paul, Ross Perot, Pat Buchanan, and a number of other paleocons have been championing this for decades.
Trump's just the first guy to make it all the way to the White House with the view. But it isn't unique to Trump, nor is it particularly unpopular. Lots of Americans, particularly poorer and more rural ones, see these foreign alliances as an unnecessary extravagance.
They don't like it any more than they liked NAFTA or the WTO or the UN.
NATO is Russia/China’s greatest deterrent.
What is The North Atlantic Treaty Organization detering China from doing, exactly?
That’s not true.
I was being facetious.
What is The North Atlantic Treaty Organization detering China from doing, exactly?
Anything in the South China Sea or the Indo-Pacific that they shouldn't be doing. China literally just says sometimes "Hey, nice land you got there. Would be a fuckin' shame if we took it..." and then just pretends like that land has always been a part of China. They literally do it all the time. They're attempting to expand their empire and without the presence of NATO, there would be no one to stop them... Especially from capturing strategic or necessary assets that are critical to the US, like Taiwan. If we lose Taiwan we're pretty much omega-fucked and I don't think people appreciate that fact enough.
NATO is the largest nuclear deterrent in the world and if we pull out, it's like taking all the ammo out of our really big guns. It's such an astonishingly stupid move I cannot even believe that anyone with a pulse would or even could support it. It leaves me fuckin' bewildered.
Why can't we have a woman president? They're too emotional for politics?
Also: the emotional melt down is a tactic. This is populism trump style, none of this is unintentional
Just to be fair: Only women can be elected president for the next 47 presidents.
Can we write s sanity test into the Constitution?
Or maybe we don't vest so much power into a single psychotic ape. Maybe we have three presidents and they all have to agree before something happens, like the computers on the space shuttle
This title is misleading. I watched the whole 9min and he was calm and collected in his delivery. Was he frustrated at the leading questions? Yes. Was he melting down? Ya no, not even close.
The summary is reasonable though. Again we are cutting trump and his underlings a ton of slack about his campaign claims of fixing the war in 24 hours, and 6 weeks into his presidency. No, we should not accept political hyperbole just because it comes from trump, and Stephanopoulos was rightly asking how does calling Zelenskyy a dictator (and undercutting Ukraine-supporting allies) but sucking up to putin move peace talks forward?
As I said before, the way trump makes these deals is like putting duct tape on your passenger door, calling yourself a master mechanic, and then blame next mechanic when the car falls apart.
The Daily Beast with a bullshit, misleading, clickbait headline? Surprising.
I'm sure I downvote Daily Beast articles more than any other site. I wish people would find other sources - although the stories might not sound as exciting.
SLAMMMED! BLASTED! CCCCOMBO BREAKER!
I guess if you don't want the world to think trump isn't sucking putins dick every chance he gets then i guess he should just stop sucking putins dick every chance he gets.
Biden’s approach to Israel
seems absolutely sane by comparison to your boss, there, buddy.
and if you were going to 'biden' your support for ukraine, there'd be a non-stop airlift going on with equipment and armaments.
Oh Mr Rubio, only difference is Israel aipac is funding all of you congreswith bribes do their bidding
seems absolutely sane by comparison to your boss, there, buddy.
Coming at the Israeli genocide in Gaza and calling it "sane" is one hell of a take.
He called it "sane by comparison". He didn't say it was sane. Words mean things.
No, TRUmp is placating Putin. He’s got to be a Russian asset.
Stopping any cyber offense/defense towards russia is just straight up treasonous at this point.
Rubio also compared Trump’s handling of Ukraine to Biden’s approach to Israel, further escalating tensions.
Well... that's not too far off
So Trump's going to give Ukraine all the weapons that they want?
His handling of Ukraine is like his handling of Gaza, so he'll be giving Russia all the weapons they want.
The problem is that most people handling this current situation through the lens of classic geopolitics
This is not classic geopolitics. This is the ultra wealthy enacting their plan to create a global plutocracy. A ruling class of only the most wealthy in the world.
They believe that their plans are more easily achieved with a Russian empire than with a free Ukraine.
Ask people like Rubio questions using that as the basis, not classic geopolitics.
having the intelligence to realize, but not have the balls to speak out to the fact that the Russian Mafia just regulatory captured your country is something to melt down over.
I'm beginning to feel there's a fundamental disconnect between the vocabulary of everyday people and the words journalists use. I can only imagine how the dialogue goes around a journalist's house.
"Honey, have you heard about the Winstons?"
"No, why?"
"Fred from accounting SLAMMED they're planning to move to Wisconsin."
"Oh, I see. Did you GRILL him about where exactly they'd be going?"
"Yeah, I HAMMERED him with questions until he MELTED down. IN TEARS, he SCREAMED at me, 'Yeah, somewhere near Madison.'"
"...screamed?"
"You know... politely."
As a European, only the complete collapse of the Russian federation in an acceptable outcome.
Rubio also compared Trump’s handling of Ukraine to Biden’s approach to Israel, further escalating tensions.
Distracting from Trump's servile position towards the fascists in control of present day Russia by using the favorite logical fallacy of the USSR, whataboutism, is either highly ironic or very on the nose depending on which axis of the political compass you choose to focus on..
Yeah Biden placated netanyahu. It was bad, but for the lowest of bars, he at least was placating an ally instead of giving a hostile power everything they want and yelling at the ally they invaded
The U.S. isn't placating Putin. The Republican party is. Because they're traitors.
While the title is the usual nonsense, the interview is the usual nonsense delivery that the master of deals is going to save the day, when he couldn't deal his way out of a wet paper bag.
Placating? More like deep throating. The US is gluckglucking Russia and liking it.
the administration didn’t know Russia’s demands.
Liar
Rubio also compared Trump’s handling of Ukraine to Biden’s approach to Israel, further escalating tensions.
Well good thing he got that far. Now we just need to teach him that Apartheid is ba—
I think I see the problem now.
This guy sucking putin's asshole says what?
Listening to this guy reminded me of Thank You for Smoking, which is a dark comedy of a tobacco industry spokes person trying to make smoking cool and acceptable again. So much bullshit, so little substance. Marco, we've all seen your face during the meeting, bullshitting like this won't save it.
The Republicans are making a real effort to convince themselves that we're now at war with Eastasia. But it doesn't seem to work too good: however much they're trying to integrate the newthink, their brains are working against decades of anti-Soviet and anti-Russian indoctrination.
It's really painful and embarassing to watch them try to reprogram their own brains to please their cult leader...
Compare the way he talks about Putin with the way he talks about Zelenskyy.
With Putin, we have to see what he wants, we have to try to work with him and understand his position, we can't do anything that might make him uncomfortable so he doesn't decide he doesn't want to talk to us, and his broken agreements are in the past while we need to be moving forward.
On the other hand, he repeatedly states that they've "explained this" to Ukraine, that we can't discuss what they want or what their concerns are, we need to focus on getting peace first, and Zelenskyy is at fault because was disrespectful which apparently we can't ignore for the sake of peace the way we can ignore a history of Putin violating peace deals.
If they actually meant what they are saying and this was all about diplomacy and achieving peace, they wouldn't be picking a fight with Ukraine, they wouldn't be publicly undermining them and trying to coerce them, and they wouldn't be refusing to acknowledge any of their concerns. These motherfuckers think that it's a good look for them to be throwing a tantrum about the way Zelenskyy dresses and getting pissy about him not being thankful enough for the way they are so generously pursuing a peace that carves up Ukraine and comes without security of any kind. That's the way they want to spin this. Because apparently they think acting like thrid grade bullies who try to pick on the smaller kids is admirable, that people will see it and think they look smart and tough.
The only thing I even find remotely believable in this interview is Rubio's mantra of "I don't understand." Just in general I think it's pretty clear that there's a hell of a lot he doesn't understand. Things like human decency, geopolitics, basic negotiation tactics, and parables about riding tigers and giving rides to scorpions. But I think he probably does understand that his position is pure bullshit and that his only job here is to try and tow the line while defending the indefensible. That's why he got so panicked when a tweet from a fellow republican came up, because his strategy was to avoid details and try to frame the backlash as partisan politics, so he can't really respond to Republican criticism.
Screaming on air won’t hide the fact that appeasement never stops aggressors.
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