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[–] [email protected] 291 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

Oh FFS. Not Brother as well. I used to recommend them to everyone. Who is left with unshittified printers?

[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Epson inkjets with refillable tanks probably.

[–] [email protected] 91 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Depending on the frequency of your printing, they can suck as well. Chronically clogged nozzles are maddening.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

You can run a power clean cycle which should help, then just replace the foam pads they saturate with ink for the cleaning

They're not perfect but they're still the most consumer friendly option on the market at this point

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[–] [email protected] 178 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

In case anyone was thinking this applies only to inkjet printers: no, it ONLY seems to apply to laser printers -- the thing that Brother used to be known for. Where the article says "ink", they mean "toner". There is no ink in a laser printer.

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[–] [email protected] 148 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

It's like every company that wasn't complete shit just suddenly decided to...go to complete shit.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If regulators don’t stop them from doing it, the CEO’s of publicly traded companies will get the boot from the board for not doing it. They have a fiduciary duty to be as shitty as humanly possible.

We need laws to stop this, but the politicians are all bribed not to.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

They have a fiduciary duty to be as shitty as humanly possible.

They don't -- that's a cargo-cult misunderstanding of Dodge v. Ford Motor Co -- but it's so widely believed I guess it might as well be true.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Unrestrained Capitalism. Without those pesky regulations, companies can charge us all unlimited amounts and not have to consider our rights or health/safety.

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[–] [email protected] 139 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

You were the chosen one! 😭

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 weeks ago

They had two things going for them... Decent linux support and non-shitty DRM ink/toner

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[–] [email protected] 100 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I suggest whoever has old firmware files to upload them to the Internet Archive (if they allow those).

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Brother used to be the good guys... Damn.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 2 weeks ago

Et tu Brother?

[–] [email protected] 81 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

These motherfuckers are actively making tech as a whole less secure by destroying any trust the public may have had in firmware updates.

Urgent security fixes are gonna go unpatched on a lot of shit because consumers are seeing more and more firmware or software updates actively making things WORSE.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Definitely true. I’ve been putting off an upgrade of my NAS because they have randomly decided to completely remove the video streaming software that came with it when I bought it. So infuriating.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

And once again the only available good tech is old 2nd hand.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yep. Just getting ready to replace the color laser printer I bought almost 10 years ago. I had been considering a new Brother before this but looks like I’m going the 2nd hand route again (last one was an open box HP from microcenter for $200 lol)

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 weeks ago

If Brother starts playing that game, they will lose. Why bother buying their considerably more expensive printers over those of HP if they are going to be just as bad in the third party ink department?

[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Brother losing all competitive advantage they had via reputation. Doing a very big 180 and reversing the changes and commiting to no do t his BS is the only way to undo this

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago

They must've hired some new analysts that said "hey, people are willing to accept less! Why are we doing more?"

It's up to the people to prove them wrong, but that usually doesn't happen :\

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Nice, Brother was the last one standing in my mind.

I'm glad I have an IoT vlan without internet access. Nothing is allowed to phone home here.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 weeks ago

Thats's a shame, I always considered brother one of the better makers of paper manglers.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"You were supposed to be the one"

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Proton, Mozilla, Brother

Its not gonna stop there

😓

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 weeks ago

Et tu, frater?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)
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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

nononononononpnNONONONONONO WHYYYYY I JUST GOT A BROTHER BECAUSE OF HP DOING THE SAME THING WTF

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

anyone know about jailbreaking printers

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It absolutely baffles me that there isn't a huge custom printer firmware movement.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm curious how this will go down in Australia. Seems like a pretty solid slam dunk refund, oh the product doesn't work as advertised anymore?

Cool, I've had this for 5 years and now I'd also like a full refund under Australian Consumer Law.

Motherfuckers.

(I don't actually own a printer)

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

As much as I love the brand, this was just obviously going to happen. It always happens, it's the eventual outcome. All that is needed is one middle manager wanting to get an extra bones to come up with some short sighted idea that will make a little extra money in the short run and possibly bankrupt the company in the long term.

See Boeing, see Intel, see....

The only way to not have this happen is to get open source hardware. The open source eco system is amazing already but we need more focus on that, hardware. CPU's, Computers, printers, phones, everything

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago

Et tu Brute! :(

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I really hope Brother is telling the truth!

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago

Going to be honest, didn't realize my Brother laser printer got firmware updates, lol.

In 7 years I've replaced the toner cartridge once, given that the stater cartridge isn't very full I imagine it'll be awhile before I have to replace it again, at least.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago

I think its time we deprecate most forms of printing. Clearly corporations cannot be trusted to operate these kinds of companies.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)

And this is why I'll never connect my working printer to the internet.

Taking a USB stick to it to print is annoying, but fuck this shit.

They're all horrible companies

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

if the update doesn’t allow the printer to calibrate with this aftermarket ink the cheaper carts become basically unusable

This isn't true. It just means you have to do the registration manually.

This is scummy behavior for sure, but it's also being exaggerated for clicks. You can read the sources linked in the wiki to see exactly what users are reporting.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I really wish we had open source 2D printers like we have open source 3D printers. That could solve a lot of the problems I think as we could have an open spec to allow people to do whatever they want. My Prusa doesn't care what brand filament I want to use, just as long it can drive it, melt it, and lay it down the way I need. Also why is it my 3D printers are more reliable than my 2D printers most days?

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

This is a total shit move but I have tried many printers and I'm still choosing Brother everytime. Especially on some older generations with copy scan and print. None of the other big brands are worth a shit. They all fail or jam in some form or fashion.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Give them time and they’ll suck too. Nothing is safe from enshitification, as they’ve just shown us.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

ink printers are total scams, you might as well use a printing shop or library to do it, if you are planning on printing large number of pages. we got a canon laser jet printer, only need toner cartridge, no subscription based models. we orignally had scam-epson.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago

The printers in the article are using toner. The title is misleading.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago

If it's not already under the umbrella of right to repair, do we now need right to refill?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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