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[–] sasa615201@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Isaiah 43:4 "Because you are precious in my eyes, and honored, and I love you, I give men in return for you, peoples in exchange for your life." ​ from: Random Bible Verse Generator

This verse expresses God's profound love and esteem for His people. He considers them precious and honored, willing to make significant sacrifices on their behalf. This serves as a reminder to believers of their immeasurable value in God's eyes and encourages them to respond with gratitude and trust in His love. ​

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 115 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I was actually asked to leave my parents church because I was loudly arguing with the guy running a gift shop that if I were to follow Jesus, I should be flipping these tables, chasing them with whips, and damming them for turning gods house into a place of business occupied by thieves.

I guess they DON'T like considering what Jesus would do.

[–] sulgoth@lemmy.world 57 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Gift shop... In a church... The Bars so low it's cracking the pavement.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

This happens at churches of enough historical significance they become regular tourist attractions.

[–] JayJLeas@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I live in Australia and this has been a thing in every pentecostal church I've been to.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So I'm in Canada and have never seen in a church but I have in a synagogue which made me chuckle because damn is it on point lol

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

So like, there was a church near where my grandma lives. Big super-church.

Has a fucking Starbucks in it.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So, the question I have, is where do the proceeds go, and how much is that guy making off it?

If the money for the merch goes to, say, feeding the homeless or even just the church’s general budget, I see it as a fundraiser, and not particularly offensive.

If the dude is pocketing the profits…. Yeah, fuck that dude.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

The person at the desk is almost certainly a brainwashed unpaid volunteer. The owner, on the other hand…

[–] Squorlple@lemmy.world 51 points 1 month ago

They’d just take this as evidence of institutionalized persecution against Christians

[–] tatann@lemm.ee 37 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Isn't the old testament more hardcore than the new one ? Jewish roulette would seem more risky than christian roulette

I mean, obviously Jesus would get arrested by modern "christians" for being a "leftist hippie commie"

[–] jecxjo@midwest.social 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Seeing as they claim Jesus amd Yahweh are one in the same you can't just ignore the OT. All the condoning slavery, taking child sacrifice as payment, stoning women who don't bleed on their wedding night.... that is all part of the Christian god.

[–] Spaniard@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

The OT is in the Christian Bible because they can't ignore it, and shouldn't ignore it. But that doesn't mean following.

An eye for an eye is incompatible with turning the other cheek.

Slavery is entirely a human creation, neither the Bible nor the Torah tells believers to enslave other people but what is says, all from the OT to the NT, is "give to Caesar what's his and give to God what's His", I know it sucks but it's not that different from Stoic teachings, that's why Catholics (and other Christians) belief that suffering makes them closer to God.

Edit.

There is a huge debate in Christendom about the meaning of “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." Some believe the OT rules stand, some believe that they don't. Catholics are taught the OT like kids learn history in school.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

Whaaaaaaaa...?? "A human creation?" You can't have it both ways. Either the Bible is the word of God, or it's ALL "a human creation". But allowing for the sake of discussion that God exists, etc, the NT endorses slavery, discusses how to practice it morally, and says nothing to oppose it. The Christian god thinks it's okay for humans to own humans, according to both the OT and the NT; no different than owning a house or livestock.

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[–] jecxjo@midwest.social 3 points 1 month ago

There is an entire set of laws on how to properly own and beat one's slaves so your comment is just flat out wrong and sounds like it's from some bad excusegist.

If you study the actual language and historical context then most of the OT was supposed to be followed by Christians. The issue came later debating between the two churches decades after Jesus' death.

Amd the eye for an eye vs turn your cheek are about two very different things and are very much compatible.

Sadly most Catholics are taught from an apologetic point of view rather than a historical literary understanding. Poor translations a d church doctrine causes many important parts to be grossly bastardized.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

Matthew 5:18

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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's so weird how the last few years, Christians act like the OT has nothing to do with them.

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's not just the last couple years. Things have been taught that way by the Catholic Church for decades.

Centuries even!

Last few years? That’s been going on for 16-1700 years.

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The Torah is certainly bad, but the New Testament has its fair share of problematic verses too

Eg

Mathew 18:9

And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It’s better to enter eternal life with only one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell.

Mark 7:24 - 28

Jesus left that place and went to the region of Tyre. Not wanting anyone to know He was there, He entered a house, but was unable to escape their notice. Instead, a woman whose little daughter had an unclean spirit soon heard about Jesus, and she came and fell at His feet. Now she was a Greek woman of Syrophoenician origin, and she kept asking Jesus to drive the demon out of her daughter.

“First let the children have their fill,” He said. “For it is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”

“Yes, Lord,” she replied, “even the dogs under the table eat the children’s crumbs.”

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

The first one is pretty obviously meant as a metaphor, hardly problematic. The second one is too obscure for me to even figure out what they're trying to say, let alone figure out if it problematic or not.

[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The second passage is pretty well established as a joke that NT writers thought was an amazing burn. The "dogs" are the Pharisees, IIRC.

[–] egrets@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The "dogs" are the Canaanites. There's lots good to be said about the character of Jesus, but this verse is straight-up nationalist.

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[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Let's industrialize this particular potential blasphemy.

https://dailyverses.net/random-bible-verse

Ed: > Truly I tell you, if anyone says to this mountain, ‘Go, throw yourself into the sea,’ and does not doubt in their heart but believes that what they say will happen, it will be done for them.

Mark 11:23

Hey at least I'm not going to prison.

[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This one claims to be truly random, I suspect yours is rigged to be more positive.

https://searchthebible.com/truly_random_bible_verse.php

Example:

3: And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;  4: And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and inquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel:

 5: Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

 6: At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.

 7: The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterward the hands of all the people. So thou shalt put the evil away from among you.

Prison it is.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The first ten verses I pulled were innocuous. "God is pretty cool, actually" -type stuff.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

It would not surprise me if it's rigged to be upbeat.

[–] lena@gregtech.eu 2 points 1 month ago

Get wisdom, get understanding; do not forget my words or turn away from them.

do not forget my words or turn away from them

Yeah, prison

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yikes, I got a tough one.

“Don’t be alarmed,” he said. “You are looking for Jesus the Nazarene, who was crucified. He has risen! He is not here. See the place where they laid him.”

— Mark 16:6

[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

A vacation to Jerusalem?

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

I think I can own a Canadian legally now, though. Get a pardon for trying, anyway.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] atro_city@fedia.io 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I used https://randombible.org/ but it seems like the bible is just a series of random stories that make no sense.

[–] mrfriki@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I’m working on my salting with fire technique but not much progress yet.

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Oh come on. Most of the bible is boring stuff.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

opens bible. Points at random verse. Ezekiel 23:20.

😨

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