Canada

I would view it as an escalation if the govt starts warming us up to getting rid of US media, content and platforms. We shouldn’t be mass importing their media, news, worldview as much as we do normally but now they are invaders - digital boycott is a real thing.

I think the Canadian national conversation has shifted. Sure, many business will need to or choose to still trade with the US, no matter what craziness starts or stops during or after the Trump administration. But we won't take the US for granted as a stable trading partner anymore.

The trade war will come on and off over his term, whenever Trump wants to take the media off of a different problem he caused.

A real war is very unlikely, not impossible, but it depends on Trump and how competent Trump's yes men are at enacting his fanciful ideas. I'd prepared for the possibility between 2016-2020, Trump would drop a nuke, and that didn't happen at least. But just the same, once again as Canadians we should be prepared for the worst, and work with whatever we have as a nation. They can take a lot from us by force, but they will never take away our solidarity and our sovereignty without us voluntarily giving it up.

The US will not invade Canada. At some point, it would require political integration. It would be a generation after that before the Republicans won an election.

There are 40 million people in Canada and more land area than the entire US. At least 75% of Canadians would vote Democrat and that is before the bitterness of an invasion. Even as a single state Canada would swing the House and every President. As multiple states, Canada would swing the Senate. Think of the Supreme Court that would be appointed. The GOP would be completely locked out.

Just allowing Canadians already in the US to vote would have cost the Republicans every presidential race since Reagan.

For the above reasons alone, somebody will stop Trump from pulling the trigger. The US will not invade Canada. Even if they did, they would give it back.

That said, Trump may wage an unbelievably destructive trade war. And the end game for that may be for Canada to submit to total subservience to the US.

We are in a negotiation. The threat of war is just part of that. We hold some decent cards. By appeasing Trump, we start to lose cards. We can get more cards by aligning with the rest of the world both economically, militarily, and socially as fast as possible. The good news is, the world seems to be there for it.

EU membership, please!!

I've started listening to the audiobook Canada alone, and so far it's very prescient of what's happening. Worth a read / listen.

I wish we could have Civil War 2: The GOP Are Traitors. Instead we get this schizophrenic bullshit.

ONAN interdependence

I think we’ll all get on just fine. This is like a toddler tantrum. Just need to cry it out in the corner a bit.

I do not believe the US will invade, at least not for quite a while. It would be economic suicide and is very unpopular even amongst Trump's own voter base. Will he in the future? Maybe, and we absolutely should plan for that. Canada needs a proper military and our forces can no longer exist as just an arm of the US military.

I think what happens next will largely depend on our government(s) going forward. Trump's temper, imperial ambitions, greed, and pride all ride on a constant knife-edge and dealing with him requires a skilled and smooth hand. We can further our ties with the US and essentially become a vassal territory, or we can seek new allies and deals elsewhere which seems to be the route we are taking at present.

Canadians need to get used to the new reality that we now share a border with a fascist dictatorship lead by a screaming near-80 year old toddler and an army of yes men. I think we are going to end up a lot like Finland in that living under the constant threat of invasion is an aspect of daily life. The bear hasn't struck yet but one day it will and every person needs to be ready and know how to respond.

Securing our democracy and economy is paramount. The Americans will be attacking our elections, our media, and our protected industries. We have been doing a good job at getting people to stop buying US products but we need to get them off American social media and news sites too - it is literally a matter of national security.

We can see from their Russian masters how an American invasion would take.

They’d try to grab and hold strategic areas and resources, while using missiles and aircraft to cripple the economy and infrastructure and spread fear nationwide.

However, we can remember that the US has tried to invade many other countries and they’ve failed every time. And while we may never have the tanks and aircraft to match them in open warfare, even much poorer countries than Canada were able to successfully repel the American forces.

And in this scenario we’d have a massive untamed border to use to make counter strikes, and would likely get significant military support from allies around the world and in the US as well.

So it would be monumentally devastating on both sides. It would be a catastrophically stupid endeavour. Which doesn’t rule it out, they have extremely stupid people in charge.

But personally I believe the US would descend into civil war before this happens, with “blue” states having suppressed voting rights trying to secede.

I'm of the mind that the Orange Imbecile intends to start a war, any war, to justify him staying on as president beyond his second term. If a civil war doesn't happen within 3 months of the start of the next presidential election cycle I fully expect him to attempt to invade us. Whether his military allows it or not is anyone's guess but AFAIK he has already begun emptying the top brass of any dissenters so....

Canada needs to dedicate its 3.6% of our gdp on the military while we build more town infrastructure further northward to give ourselves more land to retreat to.

Best case scenario Ukraine gets all that surplus equipment and we have more people spread out across the country.

Oh Trump will absolutely try to redraw the borderline. His handy reality denying sharpie will come out again.

Next up for Canada and America is Canada and Europe... we'll certainly rebuild a trade relationship over time but the instability of the American electoral system has been a much needed wakeup call to reduce dependence on our Southern neighbors.