"I was ready to argue that his mindset limits opportunities for women but then I realized I am a misogynistic douche as well"
-Tushar Naahal
this post was submitted on 29 Mar 2025
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This is a prime example of why patriarchy is hurting men too, because what this guy is saying boils down to:
- We can make them work at any hour of the day because who cares if these guys have any life outside work?
- We don't have to do any work management, we just call those guys
- We can send them wherever, whenever
- We can create a toxic work environment and it's okay to treat guys like shit
- And those guys don't even complain because they need this job so bad
Isn't it great?
The statement about "workplace laws" is so telling: Yeah, who cares about treating men with respect and dignity!?
It's not just about discriminating against women, it's also about mistreating men. That's what patriarchy is at its core: Pit men and women against each other and then reap the benefits. It's a "divide and conquer strategy".
Exactly my impression. And my response? Fuck that shit.
Also practices like that reinforce the gendered division of labour. As men get jobs, women are usually left to pick up the slack of care responsibilities. This leaves them financially dependent on those men. So both men and women suffer, but the system leaves women with less agency than men.
(Also nonbinary, queer, and third gender people are treated even worse)
Men are available 24/7
I‘d like you to meet Europeans some time.
"You mean men are easier to exploit."
This. IF these generalizations are actually true it still doesn't mean what he thinks it means. I also find the bit about "being strict" particularly gross. If it's valid workspace criticism, then there's no laws protecting women from it. So he clearly means something more like "I want to yell and insult and be a little dictator but women might report a hostile work environment."
So I heard a bunch of sexist shit (about men and women simultaneously which is very impressive) that aligns perfectly with my biases, but I wasn't aware it's ok to say out loud? Chat is this real?
That's ragebait, a very specific form of engagement
Not necessarily. You've never met someone with backwards, toxic views like this?
They can travel easily for work trips and meetings.
So can women in countries where personal transport is available and being raped isn’t as likely.
Ex-fucking-zactly.
I don't think any of these really apply in countries which aren't predominantly muslim.
Discrimination on Lemmy?
You should go to Xitter maybe, where this kind of commentary is welcome.
Discrimination usually requires an act of selection as in "I'm not going to stay in a hotel operated by a muslim bigot".
I think you really mean prejudice which is an irrational attitude of hostility.
However, is it really irrational to suggest that societal expectations of women in predominantly muslim countries would make them less flexible employees?
The fact that the standard reasoning that leads to workplace discrimination against women caught him off guard says a lot. Ok his friend didn't call women too hysteric to work but still the other stuff should sound familiar too.
GOOD point. They often have the vapors.
It can be so much worse if they have Wandering Womb
In the middle of the flanks of women lies the womb, a female viscus, closely resembling an animal; for it is moved of itself hither and thither in the flanks, also upwards in a direct line to below the cartilage of the thorax, and also obliquely to the right or to the left, either to the liver or the spleen, and it likewise is subject to prolapsus downwards, and in a word, it is altogether erratic
"I do declare!"
Sorry, but I'm not available 24/7. Far from it. In fact, leave me alone.
Hashtag leadership! Hashtag equality!
#workplacediversity was my favorite.
To address his points:
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How are women any different in this situation?
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How are women any different in this situation?
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Why do you feel you can treat men harsher than women?
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How are women any different in this situation?
Would love to hear your thoughts!
Pretty sure you wouldn't love the avalanche of slurs mixed with the citations from socio-economic studies and the ethical arguments. It's quite ugly.
My friend said something vaguely sexist, I asked him about it and he detailed his extreme sexism. I couldn't find faults in his sexism.
iS tHiS jUsT aN oLd WaY oF tHiNkInG?
What exactly does engagement achieve on LinkedIn?
If someone says networking I'm gonna throw up. These are not the people I want in my network.
Pssst I'm on your WiFi👻
Yeah, I don't see how this post would be good for networking. This is the not the kind of person you want to work with.
I use LinkedIn fire the sole purpose of promoting my research and the FOSS projects I work on, with the hope that if the right people see it, it can help what I do make a positive impact.
In that case, high engagement means more people see my stuff, which means a higher likelihood of the right people seeing it.
However, I'm sharing stuff that I actually hope is useful to someone out there. For people just circlejerking it's just for the ego boost.
Ugh, LinkedIn bros are the worst.
What would you have to say to him that he would find sexist?
"All men should die." Being said to him by a woman.
"Men are not nice to women sometimes" would also do
I'm a man and none of that applies to me differently than it would my wife. In fact, she did contract work at crazy hours one year and we made it work.
Yeah, men can be pseudo-slaves legally. That's why employers love them.
It works for the American prison industry!