People tweeting stuff. We allow tweets from anyone.
RULES:
This is winding me right up. You see people in movies and you think straight away - there is no way you would be able to afford this house/car.
The same goes with them living without any noticeable employment for months. Or having a job but spending their working hours doing something else.
Hollywood has done irreparable damage to society’s expectation of reality.
And it doesn't even stop at the financial stuff where someone has an incentive to screw with society's expectations. All kinds of other aspects like friendships, relationships, parenting,... are strange in movies too.
There's was a video essay on YouTube about there being less and less sex on TV and in movies and how bad that is. They argued that media should portray all aspects of life realistically; and if sex is left only to porn then it's going to give people a more and more skewed view with no counterbalance.
That is a good point but they should also just include more awkwardness and in general more of the effort required to keep relationships (of all kinds) working, even the successful ones. That whole "find your soulmate and then coast" nonsense has done a lot of damage to relationships to take just one example.
It's the system working exactly as designed. "you, too, could have all this if you only worked hard enough. Now that you've spent 2-3 hours of your weekend off at the movies, get back to work, slave"
Exactly, and everything is product placement. WTF would Ford want a beater from the 80s being the car in the film? They’ll lobby for the coolest, brandnewest model even when it doesn’t make sense. Or their product placement models will be every other car on the road. I see you Transformers.
I see you Transformers.
To be fair, Transformers was always product placement. Not just "full of" it, but "entirely built of" it. They designed a line of toys first and made up a story to help sell them afterward.
People in movies and tv rarely have messy houses, they’re always spotless, and everyone pops in on each other and everyone is at home wearing pants.
Is that a Frank Lloyd Wright?
Yup, thats Fallingwater in Pennsylvania. Its a museum now and you can take tours of it
Despite subsequent repairs to the parapet, the cracks there periodically reappeared. Fallingwater's problems were so numerous that Edgar Sr. referred to it as "Rising Mildew".
This part never fails to amuse me.
lmao yeah thats great. Cantilever structures are interesting to look at, but boy would I not want to be in charge of maintenance on that
Rising Mildew
This was my first thought upon processing wtf was happening in the pic. I mean, sure, that's neat. But also a nightmare.
I think his general style was really good, how his buildings could look futuristic and naturalistic at the same time, but FLW kinda didn't give a shit about structural integrity or insulation.
The interior is also very cramped for such a large structure. The surrounding land is gorgeous though.
The designer was fond of liminal space. He likes narrow hallways and sudden openings to big rooms. Personally, I was surprised by how low the ceiling is in most of the rooms. From the pictures, it looks taller and more imposing than it is IRL.
Yup, I believe it's Fallingwater
This is one of the reasons I hate and ignore all advertising. Commercials have NO IDEA who they are marketing to anymore. All I can think about when any commercial or advert plays is how fucking out of touch the company is to be showing the product getting used in a 26000 sq foot house EVERY TIME. I don't have a garage, I don't have a lawn, I don't have a basement, I dont have a house, I don't have a dog, I don't have kids because none of this shit is sustainable or affordable. What world are you marketing to you board rooms upon board rooms of assholes?
If a vacuum cleaner company wants to correctly advertise a vacuum to the masses, they would now have to have the commercial show a lonely man getting off of the night shift of his 3rd job, taking a bus back to his squalor closet of an apartment, and then passing out gazing at the vacuum which has been sitting unused in the corner of the bedroom for 8 months, because the only world where he has the time and energy to use it is in his fucking dreams.
I don’t think Hollywood and advertising are out of touch, they know what they’re doing. They’re not just selling products, they’re selling an ideal. It’s about shaping how people see the world. For working-class viewers, it feels fake because it’s their reality being distorted. But for middle and upper-class audiences, it subtly shifts their perception, makes working-class life look manageable, maybe even confortable. They know it’s not 100% accurate, but they don’t realize how far off it is. That’s the real effect: it makes things look better than they are, and pushes people further out of touch without them realizing it.
How many Mercedes and Audis are actually sold vs the ridiculous amount of commercials they run? It really feels like people in this country are living in two different realities
This is one of the reasons nobody likes movies anymore. Hollywood is so disconnected from the struggle of the working class it’s just sad. The Oscar’s have become a joke
You got me thinking over here.
Perhaps it's a two way street, and both sides have changed.
It used to be that people wanted to suspend their beliefs for an hour and a half and live in a fantasy. I feel like most people look more for reality and relatability in cinema these days, but Hollywood is still trying to provide the escape.
It's just not lining up.
Well of course they live there; that's one of Frank Lloyd Wright's worst designs. They're not going to live in one of his masterpieces, are they?
When I was a kid growing up in the Middle East in the 80s and 90s I idolized the hollywood/US TV western lifestyle. They all seemed so effortlessly lavish and nice. All sitcom/domcom families had large homes and all the kids had their own rooms and those kids didn't need an allowance. They could get jobs like waitresses or paperboys that earned a half decent pay that allowed them to afford whatever the hell they wanted. I lived in Dubai they forbade all child labor. Even if those laws were ignored in some circumstances, they were generally quite strictly enforced. So unless you were a debt-slave camel jockey kid, you were not going to work at any job.
I legit thought that that was the reality of many people. Even young adult slackers with chronic unemployment issues still somehow had small houses bigger than any apartment I knew. Of course this was myth, and ever since the 2000s rolled along with nearly 40+ years of stagnant wages AND rising costs of everything else meant that that idea is dead.
Grew up in the ghetto of the US.
Would watch Fresh Prince and Family Matters and like "WOW look at that. Their house is so pristine. Everything looks new. Everyone has their own room. People sit at a dining table."
My house was dark, smelled funny, full of random junk and we'd have mattresses on the floor to fit a large family.
All my hood friends had the same experience. I had friends whose bedroom also their living rooms.
Now I have friends who have a lot of money. 6 figure incomes and everything. Their house is slightly better looking, but that's about it. Still full of stuff. Messy if you surprise them on a off day.
Average American is no longer the standard for quality living.
Yeah. Movies and TV really painted a highly unrealistic view of American life. Also Hollywood positively sucks at depicting poverty accurately. The home you lived in is something even many poor people in the middle east don't live in.
I'm always sort of happy when I see realistic apartment situations. Like how Ruby Sunday on Dr. Who lives with her foster family as an adult.
Sopranos have a tidy house but they have a maid, when tony lives on his own, his house is littered with dirty laundry, cereal bowls, pizza boxes and tony isn’t wearing pants. I appreciated the realism of that show
seriously. or they'll have some 25yo running the CIA or something.
Malcom in the middle had a realistic home.
Which they only had because multiple people were murdered in the house, and Lois didn't tell the family.
Having a home in general isn't exactly realistic anymore
Things really have changed.
Rosanne was about a poor, blue-collar family struggling to get by that had a house with a detached garage and 4 bedrooms.
I find most video games and other media far more unrealistic in that nobody ever needs to go to the bathroom.
Sounds like you don't play Ark: Survival Evolved.
Imagine my surprise when I didn't know stimberries did that too. So much!!
I don't mind unrealistic housing as long as it's not directly referenced. Nothing worse than a character inviting someone into their home saying something like "sorry it's so cramped" and then the shot reveals a living room large enough to fit my entire apartment.
LPT from a local: Skip this tourist trap and just go to Ohiopyle down the road for natural rock slides. It is, perhaps, my favourite park.
It's all that tip money.
Sean William Scott in Role Models - his job is to dress up as an energy drink mascot, but he lives on the canals at Venice Beach and has ordinary neighbours who he sees and talks to.
