Rent-seeking can fuck right off.
this post was submitted on 11 May 2025
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Good. People need to stop renting software.
I dunno, I still find m365 family a great deal. 5TB cloud storage for less then 100 euro a year? And get the best most complète Office suite as a bonus?
If you compare that to the competition it's a slam dunk. I need cloud storage. I need an office suite.
Same goes for prime here in NL by the way. Unlimited photo storage, free games monthly, streaming, Luna, free shipping for less then 6 euro.
I dunno, the cloud storage part is quite easy to make at home. Granted, the initial price will be steeper (since you need to buy the physical drive). But in two years time, it will have paid for itself and your data will still be yours.
As for the office suite, while I understand that MSOffice is advanced, for the regular user that I am, OnlyOffice is more than enough.
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Frequently paying any amount of money for anything will always seem like a good deal to anyone who always depends on others to do everything. There's no shame in needing each other, though. We should strive to be self sufficient but can't be skilled or resourceful in every field. Abusing the needs of others on the other hand... All these huge companies should burn to the ground for that.
Just wanted to give an idea for pricing of a self hosted alternative:
- 5-6TB drive is around 100 EUR
- Intel NUC as a server is around 200 EUR
- My personal power consumption is 6 kWh per month at 24/7 operation, here that costs 10 EUR per year
You can chose other parts, you may already have some parts, Im giving my own example here.
Keeping in mind you need to be a bit tech savy to set this up, keep it updated, data secure, things may break down the line and require maintenance, etc.. The upside: the data is yours, you are reliant on yourself, it can do more than just store files.
But obviously: to each their own!
You also need to account for RAID and backups. Storing everything on a single drive without copies is asking for sad times.
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- work configuring and maintaining
- replacing drives
- dealing with issues
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Honest question, what does the current office suite does, or does better, that office 2013 doesn't?
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CS6 represent! it has everything i need for my routine photo editing
I lost my CS6 key a while ago. It was a sad day. Now I just find PS from alternative sources.
Newer versions of Krita now come with G'mic built in, which add so many incredible tools, including a content aware fill that works incredibly well, and a really nice edge detecting cropping tool called foreground extract.
Shoot, krita has content aware now? Other than non-destructive editing/layer styles that's one of the big things keeping me on PS.
It doesn't even need to be amazing, it just needs to be good enough. I think the weirdest thing about krita for me was how you type text in a dialog box instead of on the canvas.
Adding text effects, like colored outlines, on Krita is painful, you essentially have to type <xml> stuff without a decent preview of how it looks
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I've always been a fan of getpaint.net - it's like... idk, half-way between microsoft paint and photoshop, but you can install plugins to add functionality that the vanilla version doesn't offer.
Until you cross into advanced manipulation or outright image creation, Paint.Net can do almost everything you want from it. Tbh the only feature I miss is the plethora of user guides and tutorials that are Photoshop specific, or said another way; I don’t miss their software, I miss the community
Awesome. It works on my phone too! Now I can Photoshop on the go!
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I wonder how much different it really is from current versions.
Up until they started adding AI features it's pretty similar. I'm ambivalent about those features. They're handy as hell, but the SaaS model eats dead donkey asshole, and they're tied together. I always find a client who will just pay for my CS subscription for me, so it's not really like I've suffered much, but what a stupid fucking tax just to get CA-delete.
Content aware delete was in cs5
I kind of thought so but I don't remember it being awesome yet. My workflows back then were still built around a lot of hand work that is now automated entirely, like sky replacement.
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I actually checked it out last year because I was curious about the whole AI autofill in Photoshop, where you can give it a cropped art piece and it'll fill out the remainder.
If your experience with Photoshop is from CS5, you'll hate this new version. They removed a lot of the tooling that I was used to. Maybe they simplified the toolbar and everything is tucked into different things. I struggled to modify my art piece and remove the background.
I found myself going back to Photopea immediately.
As for the AI autofill thing? It's a shit gimmick. It barely works most of the time. And honestly, if I was to use a tool, you're better off using a AI art tool and then "Photoshop" them together. Then use whatever the hell Adobe cooked up.
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After using CS6 since 2012, I finally found a proper working crack for CC (the 2024 version, specifically). The only difference I really noticed was the addition of the AI stuff (which I can't even use because it requires an Adobe account). There were other differences I've noticed too but they're so minor that other than HDR support, I can't think of any of them (and I can't even get HDR working in PS, despite having a 10 bit display).
The jump from Premiere CS6 to CC 2024 was much more useful for me, but only because I needed support for more modern video codecs.
I honestly think commercial software offerings peaked in around 2010, and that's why they're all seeking rent now. They realized nobody wants to buy an annual new copy for incremental updates, but they also wanted more profit, not less.
There's still cool things happening in software, but now it's all incredibly niche, or FOSS projects that sometimes aren't all there yet, BUT do cool things that commercial software won't. Or incredibly niche FOSS projects.
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I think Photoshop CS5 is still a better product than Gimp will ever be. I think this person needs to upgrade to Affinity. While it’s still available to buy, that is.
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I own the CS6 Master collection. I still play around in Flash builder on occasion and play my old animations. AE is still useful but has been mostly replaced by Blender. Still love Photoshop as I have been using it since my gave me a cracked copy of 7.0.
Have no intention of ever giving adobe another dollar.
There's gimp, krita, inkscape
Daw a circle in Gimp. I'll wait.
I mean it took all of 30 seconds of having not used in it a few years to find the eclipse selection tool, force it to a circle and fill it with color. If you have a fancy tablet you could probably even put some patterns in it too but that is not a skill I have
GIMP's focus isn't on drawing, but rather on manipulating photographs. If you want to be drawing circles easily, then Krita or Inkscape or any number of simple paint applications will do that...
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3.0 just dropped you can in fact draw a circle.. For circles, I prefer inkscape.
But can we have some of the red circles be drawn with blue ink, and some with transparent ink?
Can we have one of the circles in the form of a kitten?
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Mac users should take a look at Pixelmator if you’re doing light work and Affinity if you’re doing studio-grade work.
Pixelmator feels like something Apple developed to be a part of the iWork suite, and the Affinity apps are literally Adobe apps with sane price points.
(Pixelmator was recently purchased by Apple so its future is uncertain, but the original software is still for sale as it was before the buyout for the time being.)
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Portable CS3 represent
I'm still using CS3. It's the only software on my pc at this point that doesn't have dark mode. I also found out recently that it should run perfectly on Linux using wine, so I intend to try that soon.
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I'm an artist, and I have that version too, running it under qemu/Win10 (it won't run on Wine), under my Debian-Testing main OS. However, I have actually moved to Gimp 3 recently for all my work. I use it to make collages ( https://www.instagram.com/eugenia_loli ) and edit my scanned watercolor paintings: https://pixelfed.social/EugeniaLoli The only problem is that Gimp can't read my old PSDs that have adjustment layers correctly, so I load them first either on that old Photoshop, or online on Photopea, and then export them as TIFFs, to load them back to Gimp. For my newer work, I just use Gimp all the way.
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I can't believe they haven't released an "update" that breaks it.
I too still have the cracked installers for CS5 and CS6 but... I switched to Gimp and Krita a very long time ago.
I remember doing an animation internship on the pilot of a TV show most here have heard of (Not gonna dox myself) and CS5 was definitely available at the time, but the studio was still using Flash MX because that was the last version available that Adobe hadn't fuckin wrecked.
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You still don't own it. You bought a license to use it; like almost any other piece of software. If it came on physical media, you also own the disk it came on, but not the software on the disk. That license may not expire, and they can't stop it working remotely or take your disk away, but it's still being "rented."
I mean, if you buy software and expect 0 updates afterwards I guess that’s fair
I mean honestly, the old model was kind of dope. You pay a fairly high price for the software. Updates for that version are free. When they come out with enough new features to release a new milestone version you got to choose whether you upgrade to the milestone or stay on your existing version. True critical security patches were released for At least the last couple of versions.
But you get to decide when the features warrant you buying again. You got to choose with your wallet and the companies had to deal with that.
If they would have put a bunch of crap in about having the rights to AI scrape all of your content in the old version people would have just said fuck it I'm not upgrading it. But as it stands, if you don't like it you have to not use the software at all.
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