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[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You can also trigger a fairly bizarre cutscene where your character takes a shower with one of the female characters but she keeps all her clothes on, if you cultivate a certain level of unrepentant stink.

https://www.gameslearningsociety.org/how-do-you-trigger-a-quiet-shower-scene/

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The people who make video games are a bunch of weird assholes

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)
  1. Quiet comes into frame, PoV happens to focus on the bucket so the first thing that to end up in the center are her boobs
  2. Quiet leaves, someone thought the player needed a power zoom on her ass and added a matching sound to it
  3. They made her hum and dance in a jail cell, while randos in the background mumble Oh, she's a hot girl, what I wouldn't do...

Honestly, the zoom gets me the most. Why was that added? How do you get away with something like that?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

I love these games, but the fan service scenes sprinkled through like that are cringey as all hell. At least I never knew about this one, I bathed my Snake regularly.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Because they are made by, and for, assholes.

None of the Metal Gear games after the original NES one did anything for me, so I didn't really get it and wasn't aware, but yes every time I learn something new about it ("she breathes through her skin that's why she's half naked all the time") it just reinforces the original judgement.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The original NES one

Now this is primo bait

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You needed to play it as a little kid when it first came out.

We were just getting used to inventories. Stealth in games simply didn't exist. The whole concept of key cards as far as I know didn't exist, and even that whole structure of parts of the game that were blocked off behind abilities you didn't have yet, or ways you hadn't realized you could use your existing abilities, was still pretty brand new.

The thing I wish it had done, which Zelda 1 did very well but which very few games even up to the modern day have the balls / level design skill to do, is gate parts of the game behind combat that is just straight-up too hard for you yet. Almost always, the Metroidvania structure includes parts that are challenging, but everything you can reach is doable if you focus on it for a bit. And then, when you do them, you can unlock some more doable stuff. Zelda wasn't like that. There were parts you could reach that would just outright murder you. You had whole parts of the game that were locked off behind enemies that were still too hard for you, for a long time, and so going into those areas felt like a for-real adventure. Once you got kitted up enough to be able to go hang out there, and explore it in detail and survive as long as you were alert, you feel super badass. It leads to this feeling of accomplishment that's totally different from how it would feel if it was the exact same difficulty curve but all the stuff that was too hard for you gets locked away until you were ready for it.

Anyway, Metal Gear wasn't like that. The combat was honestly pretty much just bad, even for the time period. But it introduced stealth and a new approach to big sprawling worlds, where you can't even really make sense of the map because it is so non-Euclidean and you're wandering through this bizarre and hostile environment. It's like a Metroidvania where at any given time, you can only find 3 different gates, and they're all locked, and so you have to go back over all your previous stuff and try to figure out what you missed. How all the different trucks move, what you can and can't use your items for, finding new information or new frequencies for your radio, it was just this really surprisingly complex game that was still while the whole industry was shaking off the Atari era and trying to do real games. It was a new take on Metroidvania, all cramped corridors and locked doors and rooms that insta-kill you instead of open sprawling maps and inviting ledges you can't reach yet.

It didn't even have a plot, and it still had a massive coherent plot for the games of the time. It had a plot! I don't know man. You can't even really compare it to the "she breathes through her skin" era of Metal Gear because Metal Gear just defected from its original form into a totally different class of game, the Cinematic Bullshit-O-Rama With Occasional Gameplay At Times. It's one of the modern AAA games industry's favorite genres. But the old Metal Gear, for all its significant flaws, was a genuine and successful effort to move the medium forward.

Plus I was a little kid and I enjoyed playing it. I saw this magazine ad for it that was just this massive list of all the different items you can get, and it just wasn't like anything I'd seen before. And, they followed through; they didn't just pad out the list with weirdness, they actually thought of something you could do with everything. What about these cigarettes? Surely that's just a little joke, right? No. The cigarettes are useful. You need them at one point. Of course you do. The empty cardboard box is useful. Everything is useful.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I grew up in the NES era but could never get into this game. Was just a bit too young for it but damn your comment makes me want to give it the college try now. We had the NES version of Maniac Mansion that I also spent many hours trying to solve but was just too young for it too. Platformers were my jam though. MegaMan 1-6, Darkwing Duck, DuckTales, ect.

As for Metal Gear, I loved the PS1 version and based on your description seems the closest to the original of the "newer" titles. I was very disappointed with MGS2 but enjoyed MGS3s story. Never gave 4 or 5 a chance though because of the same reasons you mention. It became way too campy.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

THE TRUCK HAVE STARTED TO MOVE.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

original NES one

NES had two, but I only played the first

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake's_Revenge

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

In Death Stranding, if you look at the protagonists crotch, he punches you in the face over it. Glad to know they encourage ogling women but ogling men gets you gay bashed

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In Nier: Automata, 2B moves away if you try to look under her skirt. Kaine in Nier Replicant apparently even kills you for it and calls you a "pervy little shit" among other insults.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

There is a PlayStation trophy in Lollipop Chainsaw for tilting the camera to look up Juliet's skirt

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I'm mad at that lol

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It is a pretty weird scene where they are showering in a jail cell where the guards whistle at them.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If I remember, they justified her showering with her clothes on as it's a way she would drink water since she breathes through her skin. Also, it's the reason why she didn't wear too much.

Or, maybe Kojima is just being Kojima

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

Also, it's the reason why she didn't wear too much.

I'm sure that's the reason the devs had for this decision.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Meanwhile Yoko Taro: "I like big butts and I cannot lie"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I bet it's just rule of horny

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Holy crap the more I learn about MGS V the more I learn that I really need to actually put some time into it. I got it for free with my first GPU (a GTX970 a couple of months after the 3.5Gb scandal got big) and it was my first steam game. I'd never played any games of the genre (or related genres) or scope before (I'd grown up playing tons of Sid Meier and Maxis titles on disc) so the whole thing was kinda a culture shock for me

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Ah yes because Quiet wears a lot of clothes in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

What stats go down? Afaik the only thing being dirty really does other than cover you in blood is make you smell, which can give away your position to enemies. But just getting dirty doesn't make you smell, you have to crawl through something smelly and your stench will be indicated by flies buzzing around you (and Ocelot telling you that you stink). The only way I've ever been stinky is by hiding in a dumpster for a bit.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I haven’t played metal gear but in Skyrim stealth is a stat and it seems like this makes it go down

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The Dragonborn: farts

The 3 Guards who phased in through the walls: "STOP, CRIMINAL SCUM!"

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nobody breaks wind on my watch!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

"Must've been the wind."

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Venom Snake: eats ration with beans

Venom Snake later on:

fart button unlocked

QTE to hold fart in while moving unlocked

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Fuck, I'd totally fail that QTE right behind a guard on purpose

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Sssssshhh! Don't tell the non-showering depressed shut-ins that!

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Kojima games have always been full of mechanics and characters that are pretty obviously direct jabs at his own player base.

Hrm, after MGS, what does my NA playerbase look like?

Oh, a bunch of skinny, white, emo nerds with massive insecurity about basically everything in their lives?

Perfect, that's the new main character, and he gets a shonen character arc.

... MGS4 legitimately got me to get a portable cigarette butt container, and then also helped me to quit smoking.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What is a "portable cigarette butt container"?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Its an airtight container that you can fit in a semi-large pocket, which works as an ashtray, and you put cigarette butts in it.

In Japan, littering is extremely frowned upon, there are basically no public ashtrays, it is pretty common for smokers to stash their butts in these containers and then empty them out later.

Very different from the norm in much of the rest of the world where people just litter cig butts everywhere, toss them into garbage cans and start fires.

Here's a cheap one on amazon.

Here's Snake using his in MGS 4:

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That is actually amazing. This needs to be standard fare everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Probably easier to get people to stop smoking than stop littering.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Portable sealable ashtray

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

A analogue film container was my go for this use.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I love MGS5

Nonlethal is just as easy as lethal. There's a morality system that goes with it.

If you kill too many people and don't wash off their blood then you become permanently soaked in blood, and Snake grows a little devil horn. No matter how many showers you take you will never wash away the blood.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

never wash away the blood

True irl too. Tried once, there's even more blood once you get past the skin.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That sounds like a skill issue. Have you considered replacing your flesh the strength and certainty of steel? We have oil margaritas!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, but i have tried titanium, with mixed results.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Hey, at least that will give less trouble in MRIs. Although, I was a bit scared about all that talk about dielectric heating. I guess it did not resonate at (whatever the MRI does)?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

In Death Stranding you can collect Norman Reedus’s bodily fluids and throw them at people.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Metal Gear is telling you to wash your dirty arse.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Seems like Metal Gear Solid is the gamer version of Disney's Snow White, because that girl motivated me so much to clean my room when I was a kid. Her and Mary Poppins. And so some extent, Pippi Longstocking too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I grew up wanting the magical mops from Fantasia.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Hideo Kojima has a secret message for fans.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You ever skip taking a shower for a day or two just so that the next shower you take feels even better?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, I do it because I'm living in the hamster wheel of capitalism and I'm very tired

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago
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