Unconstitutional. They are now categorically a occupying enemy force.
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Where are all the 2A folks who brag nonstop about resisting tyranny?
They're wearing ICE badges
in thier red states, which trump is avoiding sending ice and troops , by the way where most of the "illegal/undocumented immigrants are", meat packing plants, farm picking crops.,,,etc/.
Most gun owners are MAGA these days. When they talked about resisting tyranny they basically meant they were racist and didn’t like Obama. They are all for what is happening now.
People like me who are liberal gun owners are rare and there mostly aren’t enough of us to protest together effectively.
This is thanks to the rest of you being anti-gun. Hopefully, though it’s too late at this point, you see how fucking retarded it is to be anti-gun in a world where your adversaries are fascists.
In my state I now have to apply for a permit just to buy a firearm, take a class, and I’m not sure what else. This, even though I already own firearms including a so-called assault rifle, all while possessing a license to carry a concealed pistol.
That’s the kind of shit people like you voted for, advocated for, and killed off liberal interest in n firearms by doing.
This reality is what you helped create while our politicians lapped it up - easier to blame guns than help people with their mental health issues. Cheaper too!
So go fuck yourself.
So you are aggressive, pro gun and anti education.
Why do you need to protest with someone who is pro gun? Do you think you'll need to use it at a protest?
The question they replied to was where the pro 2A people were. The point of 2A is that the armed populace meets or exceeds the armed tyrants. One person with a gun can't stop hundreds of cops with battle gear, that's the point of everyone having a right to be armed.
I would hazard a guess that in this context their answer is probably yes, they expect to need to protest with other pro gun (armed) protesters if they were going to be armed.
Ask the Black Panthers how well only one or two people being armed in a protest worked against the cops, compared to everyone being armed. There is a reason Reagan started gun control, and it wasn't because his supporters were the ones that were armed.
"There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people."
-Commander William Adama, Battlestar Galactica (2004)
I wish they tied up BSG with an ending that demonstrated the cylon plan.
Yeah, I love BSG, but about half the time I rewatched it I end up just forgetting to continue about when they start working with the cylons. I think they didn't actually know what the plan was when writing the show, and then it just sort of stops.
In my opinion, the show in general just has a very slow steady decline. It starts as some of the best TV I've ever seen, and then they obviously can't just keep doing the same thing and it starts losing it's place I feel.
There was that TV movie called "The Plan", which was basically about the show from the cylons' perspective, and trying to work their actions into a somewhat coherent narrative. But the titular "plan" was essentially just winging it.
The line from the show's intro though, "and they have a plan", that was not something the showrunners originally wanted. The network made them add it in.
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This violates the Posse Comitatus Act
Who is downvoting this? Why? Do they disagree that the act was broken? Do they just dislike armed forces being barred from law enforcement?
Votes don't matter here, it's not tracked. Some instances don't even display votes either way.
They matter to just about everyone not on hexbear (for them it really matters but they tell us it does not).
Maybe just you? I've seen a few people get mad about it but most people seem wholly unconcerned with them, and rightfully so.
Can you tell me what my total "points" are?
I'm not even sure downvotes affect a comments visibility on here, with the way federation works I bet they don't.
Ha, you downvoted me. Ironic.
Oh and yes the votes do effect visabilty on Lemmy. Some ways of interfacing with lemmy also allow you to see user totals. But that is not the value of votes, the value is in the feedback and interaction on comments.
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But it is strange that there are downvotes even on the most of innocuous comments.
"Several days of training"
That seems sufficient /s
Posse Comitatus Act
I'm just waiting for protests to be labeled "insurrection"
The President has been saying the word so much in the last week
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Photos of Guard soldiers providing security for the agents have already been circulated by immigration officials.
Bullshit "providing security". They're the ones who are armed and in armor. They have qualified immunity to do basically whatever they want. The national guard should be there to provide security for the citizenry.
Funny thing about Qualified Immunity.... It's illegal, and had the 1982 SCOTUS been handed the original wording of the law, they wouldn't have any immunity. The law in question was illegally changed by one dude.
Unless the guard troops are working directly with law enforcement, or are there at the request of the state, or the Insurrection Act has been invoked, none of which have happened or are the case, then it is completely illegal for them to be detaining anyone for any reason. Those troops should be refusing to follow those illegal orders.
Yes, but will it be judged legal later by the courts? That is not an academic question and disobeying illegal orders require them to be judged illegal.
The average reservist is not a legal expert but knows things are wacky. They not going to forfeit too much by guessing wrong. Especially when things are mild like this.
This is not mild, my friend ☹️
But it is; nobody is shooting except the cops with less than lethals. Compared to serving in Iraq, this is nothing
You’re not wrong, but I was referring more to the political situation than the combat one.
If we make it out the other end the bastard should hang for treason
So all the rabid 2A’ers are like “now’s our time, let’s go!” right? ……..right????
Pretty sure a significant part of them are already on their way to do that .... right after they put on their blue uniform and pick up some more rubber shells.
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The last thing we want to do is mobilize the gun Community. The 2nd Amendment is ony when the 1st Amendment has failed.
So far the 1st is looking strong. I'm so far left that I own many weapons. I also know that we don't want to give the few psychotic military commanders like this a reason to shoot protesters.
Socialists should all have arms and know how and when to use them. Liberals have constantly pushed people on the left to disarm themselves and made claims that only the right have arms. Very few people on the left will tell liberals they own firearms because they have been told to fear the gun instead of the person wielding the firearm.
I hope we never have to fight a protracted guerrilla war in America. We aren't close to that yet, and I pray I never need to use my arms to protect my family and community. That's where gun owners are.
We are only needed when the military fully takes up arms against the population.
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“Detained” my ass.
There's a loophole, and it allows the national guard to do this. From the Wikipedia article:
The Act does not prevent the Army National Guard or the Air National Guard under state authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within its home state or in an adjacent state if invited by that state's governor.
Kind of surprised the national guard are not included when all other branches were included during the Biden administration
The state governor explicitly disagrees with their use, so not applicable
if invited by that state’s governor.
They are very much not invited by the governor in this case.
The governer is suing in this case. That’s how much it’s not invited.
Those who work forces...
But the title is not correct?
Per the article -
[Sherman] later said he was incorrect, and that he had based his comments on photos and footage he had seen that turned out to not be a representation of Guard members in Los Angeles.
He said that as of Wednesday, none of the troops has detained a protester.
Of course, it's always possible he's not telling the truth.
Temporarily fucking them a little.
Sucks troops are about to the first to be taken down before cops.
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