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[–] [email protected] 241 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

Okay, now do it every weekend until something changes. That's why protests are successful in places like France, because they repeat until it's no longer possible to ignore.

Edit: Cleaned up that last line.

[–] [email protected] 117 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, this is crucial here. We also had large protests in Germany last year. Once, maybe twice. Then everyone went home and let the fascists continue to take more influence and the supposed center followed suit and now the country has shifted significantly to the far right and the minister of interior is in open defiance of the courts to abuse refugee seekers.

You have to protest every week and if your demands are not met you have to escalate protests. That includes things like striking, blocking the police/ICE thugs from carrying out their oppressive missions but will also need you to fight back, if you are attacked.

Not keeping up the pressure now would be a great blunder, unfortunately one that many "liberals" or "social democrats" love to fall into.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't know if I'd lump in democratic socialists with liberals but I agree with everything else that you said.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Social democrats are hardly "democratic socialists" in almost all European countries. By now in countries like Germany or Denmark the "Social democrats" are Neoliberals with a hard on for authoritarian and racist policies.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Ah okay, I thought we were talking about actual social democrats, not LARPers.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Protests are successful in places like France because they carry with them the implicit threat that the elites will sonner or later have their heads separated from their shoulders if they don't address the concerns of the rest of the population.

Meanwhile in the US there is not even the risk of the economic damage of a General Strike, much less of the physical integrity of those who actually control how the country is managed.

Several million Americans walking around in their own time holding boards decrying the current puppet of the elites ain't going to scare the elites into letting go of some of their power.

The murder by a single individual of a Healthcare Insurance company CEO had more concrete impact than this march of millions of Americans ever will.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

They also work in France because all of those people can very reasonably gather in one place, which isn't feasible for the US

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

Good news! You don't have to all gather in one location!

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

thats why they worked very quickly to suppress news about luigi, it also took them a month to come out with a way to propagandize against him.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They also burn things in France.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They also blockade the ports and spay manure at government buildings in France.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Reminds me of how Colin Kaepernick demonstrating an unambiguously peaceful display of protest during the Black Lives Matter protests, and a bunch of people still got upset about it.

They'll attack any sort of protest. They just want you to sit back and take it. Anything that doesn't go according to their plans is a problem. Not consuming enough, not working enough, not having enough kids? All problems.

[–] [email protected] 98 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The revolution will not be televised

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

it was pretty clear how fast they try to steer of away from bad news making class issues more prominent, when luigi news was suppressed just after 2 weeks of his capture. on reddit, before i came to lemmy, last dec reddit was trying very hard to suppress posts about him, and tried to bombard the msms with trump only news.

because the less attention that trump gets on the air, the more people are going to realize he doesnt really do anything without being on air.

[–] [email protected] 122 points 6 days ago (5 children)

WSJ reported "tens of thousands" attending trumps parade which was the most honest thing I've seen from major papers. then next sentence was "hundreds of thousands" attending the no kings protests. While that is technically true, it misrepresenta the 5 million who protested across the country and felt like a concession to not make trump's birthday parade look as bad.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I also saw the AP say there were "dozens" of No Kings protests. According to the No Kings site, they had protests in 1,500 cities.

Could you imagine if you asked you spouse to pick up a dozen eggs and they came back with 1,500 instead?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"they had bread."

(I know I'm butchering the joke, please bear with me)

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 days ago

The WSJ is part of the problem.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

by tens of thousands attending trump parade, they mean that out if thousand of people, only tens attended

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The NY Times was a leading cheer leader of the Third Reich, and they are a leading cheer leader of the fourth.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Feel like it's a missed opportunity to not be referring to these guys as the Third Rich as a simple pun.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago

Nice!

I'd also like to add "Turd Reich" to the submission box.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Did Hitler ever explain what the first and second reiches were? I’m guessing some kind of anthropological pseudoscience involving ice men, but maybe someone can provide a TLDR.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

First: Holy Roman Empire 962 to 1806
Second: German Kaiserreich 1871 to 1918

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If memory serves it's Holy Roman Empire, German Empire ("Kaiserreich"), Hitler

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That’s by the way why “third reich” is a really bad way to call it: Either call it “drittes Reich” (German) or “third Empire” (English), but mixing the two is just stupid.

If I had to guess this half-way nonsense is probably a result of the English not wanting to be associated with it, giving they kept talking about the “British empire“…

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

but mixing the two is just stupid.

I know, it just doesn't feel reich.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Expect this from corpo-slop. This is New America, where all legacy media bent to threats from a despot instead of doing their fucking jobs. They're complicit, and they should be standing next to this admin against the wall after the fallout.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

the msms owners are mostly trump supporters. besides obvious fox, cnn was the template to make it foxlite to trick would be boomers/xers on the fence politically, but not intuitively to actually verify said news.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is New America, where all legacy media bent to threats from a despot instead of doing their fucking jobs. They're complicit

Buddy have you every read a history book in your life? This isnt new at all

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

William Fox (who was a monumental bastard of the highest order) went to prison in the 1940s because he thought FDR would allow him to monopolize the film industry in return for helping to convince Americans to join the war effort. Fox founded the March of Dimes. Yes, that was the original "Fox News" I guess you could say.

So what's happening isn't the new America, it's the old America with the worst possible person in charge. Ever since I could vote, I've been voting for FDR even though I know that's not what I'm going to get. If anything good comes out of this disaster, it will be that an Obama-like figure (I don't give a shit what anybody thinks of him, he was objectively a very good president and historians will remember him as such) will win an election and be able to get things done with an FDR-like mandate. Trump has really opened the hatches for all kinds of horrible backlash.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Peaceful protests work because they get you out and you meet like-minded people and act together as a community.

It you go out there hoping for instant change, then you're missing the point. You need to talk to people, exchange contacts, schedule more get-togethers, look to talk with your local government as a group, amass enough votes to get someone among you as a representative or their staff.

Do this in enough cities that the protests took place and then it's done.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 days ago

Yes, exactly. Protests are an outreach and organizing tool, not something that by itself causes change.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Almost like peaceful protests can be ignored by capital owners or politicians.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

It has to continue and be sustained. It's less likely getting everyone to participate in a general strike, but if 10% of the people in the US walked out of their job to protest in the street...? I guarantee there would be immediate change.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 days ago

It has been continuing. It has been sustained. There has been constant protesting since Trump got back in office, it's just not being covered by mainstream news outlets. These latest No Kings protests have been the biggest protests so far, but they haven't been the only protests, not by a long shot.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's really not. I just checked. At least not in the online version.

[–] LikeTearsInTheRain 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It was the first thing on their website for a bit but the Minnesota assassination took over shortly afterwards. For the rest of the day it was still on the homepage. But looks like it has fallen off a couple days after.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The nyt covered it with tons of pictures on the day it happened. But I guess it's not good enough unless they do it exactly how and when you want.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

Yeah I don't know when this tweet is from but I imagine that it's talking about the 50501 protests. Which the NY times covered extensively.

Hell right now there's a half dozen articles on their homepage. Or if you don't want that here's an article, and Another article.

Then again, literally every single time I've seen a comment like this online talking about "nobody is talking about this!!!!" every single major newspaper has multiple articles about it. I don't know why people keep falling for this when it's the easiest thing on earth to prove. Like guys, just Google the thing """nobody""" is talking about.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago

Thats because peaceful protests are not a threat to the status quo they profit from

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (10 children)

They're all state controlled. I cant tell you often enough.

Capitalism is not a free system. The media only says what it is supposed to say. That has been proven countless times.

The reason why some mainstream media posts "critical" articles is to make the ruse believable.

Please read anti imperialist sources and be prepared to have the crudest awakening possible.

What we in the west call "propaganda" by eastern states is mostly true and our understanding of "history* is mostly false. We are the baddies.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (8 children)

State controlled? No. Corporate controlled. The same corporate interests that control the state.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

Shits all over the place. Stop with this nonsense.

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