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I want to be part of the solution of the problems I see on Lemmy, that is why I opened my alt account at my current server to open new communities while fixing their issues.

I had been informed by the server admin that I should not post more than 5 posts in any local community which is guaranteed to kill my communities on my current server.

I am explaining the backstory here for people to understand my logic for my question.

So, I really appreciate any help here. If anyone can give me good servers to open my communities in.

My current communities:

  • News: to lower the load on Lemmy. World server and to improve the Fediverse health.
  • Europe: due to less than optimal moderation actions as documented in "power trippin " community.
  • Misinformation/ Disinformation: Because there is no community to post research and news about this topic.

Thank you all for your help. I really would appreciate any lead here.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It sounds like you are looking for a server that is ripe for bot abuse. What time frame did the admin say not more than 5 posts. I would tend to think they mean 5 posts a day which sounds completely reasonable to be for an upper limit on posts per day into a single sub.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Yes, The time frame is per day.

Here is the reason I don't support that limit:

From my experience in moderating the technology community at my main account, no one will post on my new community for very very long time.

How will news community for example survive on 5 news posts daily? As I said it will be granted to fail if it did not contain useful news posts that cover wide amount of topics.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Plenty of communities survive with 5 posts per user daily

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

More than 5 posts would raise the likelihood of people blocking that instance because of spam. Less is more.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

As long as they're not back to back I don't mind. But what I HATE is people that spam out like 30 posts in one go. I don't want an entire page to be posts from one person/community.

I especially hate it when it's the exact same link, but different communities (shouldn't be an issue for OP, but I hate that shit). Lemmy really needs to fix that. I don't mind people cross posting 30 times, but I only want to see the same link once per page.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I make an exception to that rule for the /c/superbowl. I love seeing a bunch of owls suddenly appear in my feed :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Hah, I figure I do bother some people with my block of posts, but 1) I put all my posts up and breakfast so people have all day to ask me questions and I have all my down time at work to answer them so you get quick replies before you forget you even asked something, and 2) if seeing 3-5 owl photos is a row is that big a deal, congrats on having no real problems! 😜

I really do feel that way I do it is an advantage for anyone who develops a real interest in the content. It works for me in a way that it isn't a burden to do it every day, and you get my mostly undivided attention to reply to you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Omg, I agree. I hate seeing the same article posted to 10 different instances all lined up in a row.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You don't need 5 posts a day for a community to survive here. There's not that many people on Lemmy, things are a bit slower paced.

I mod [email protected] and we'd be lucky to have one post per day, yet I think it's still a relatively healthy community, with a decent amount of engagement on most posts.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

You don’t need 5 posts a day for a community to survive here

"Surving" != "Thriving".

A couple of years ago, I noticed that the front page of HackerNews was consistently getting links from Mastodon posts. That was interesting because it showed that at least one significant part of the tech conversation had moved away from Twitter and into the Fediverse.

No such thing has happened for Lemmy. There is no particular community which is thriving. There is no example of subreddit community that had successfully boycotted Reddit and transplanted here. We have the usual handful of posters, each one trying to maintain their communities "alive", but that is far from its true potential.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I don’t dislike the Adam’s Family nor the Munsters, but I have blocked both communities because they each had a ton of submissions on the same day, and they were dominating my feed.

There’s nothing wrong with slowly submitting content. Submitting too much, too quickly makes it hard to distinguish from spam.

Just my opinion. I understand that you are looking to build something, and therefore you disagree on submission frequency.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I don’t dislike the Adam’s Family nor the Munsters, but I have blocked both communities because they each had a ton of submissions on the same day, and they were dominating my feed.

I love eevee and its eeveeloutions, but the eevee community is spammy AF. I unsubscribed after a couple days. I am getting close to blocking it altogether.

I mod the women's hockey community on OP's instance, and post the results of all games (this past season there were only 6 teams so not a lot), but if there are two games in a day I try and put at least 6 hours between the posts so not to spam.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I suppose it depends on the purpose of the community. Narrowly defined communities like eeveelutions or The Addams Family don't really justify a glut of content in an hour.

OP seems to run a news community though, which is probably where they ran into a brick wall with the 5 post limit. There's a lot of news. And I guess you're not a very useful news community if you miss a lot of it.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Lets say you find an instance that meets your requirements, given the lack of email validation, what's going to happen is that instance will be host to trolls and spammers, top to bottom, and then it will get defederated from the rest of lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

It's entirely possible to host an instance that doesn't require emails to sign up. Blahaj lemmy and piefed don't for example. We don't have a spam problem though, because we require manual approvals of new accounts. Lack of email verification is only a problem when it's combined with open signup

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

My instance does not require email validation and so far I have zero spammers or bots. There is one thing I am doing different than everyone else. Can you guess what it is?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why wouldn't you present your solution without the theatricals?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

I did already. The solution is to charge a small payment from every user. I've been saying that for everyone that cares to hear since 2022.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I would venture that you spun it up yourself.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

It's still open for registrations. The instance is not just for me.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Set up your own server and apply your own rules.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Agreed, this is my go to response to everyone, (seriously there's like a post a week about this same thing) asking it. Sounds like the perfect place to spread whatever garbage you want is the server you set up and pay for yourself, accepting all personal liability for. Go all cowboy with it!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Guessing you want a free speech instance where you can spam and spout nonsense. You may want to look to hilariouschaos, or one of the other freeze peach patriot instances.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I've noticed you tend to always assume the worst before even trying to give the benefit of the doubt.

There are very legitimate reasons to not want to give your email to any random website that asks. They can be hacked, the instance might be a front for some data aggregator, etc. And if your response is "just use a masking service" or "just use a disposable email address", then what is the point of validating the email address in the first place?

Admins add email verification because this is one extra layer of protection against automated bots, but this is far from a guarantee they are protected. It might help them to give some paper trail in case someone does something nasty on their servers, but the best they can do is take an (easy to create) email address and report to the authorities along with the IP address.

Compare with an instance that only accepts paying members:

  • no bot or spammer will be interested in paying a few dollars per month to send messages
  • if some spammer is stupid enough to sign up to the service and sends clear spam, then we point the ToS to them, kick them out and they will be left without any money
  • we have a much stronger paper trail (credit card payments, bank transfers) in case some user does something nasty.
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

We require a valid email for registration as an anti-spam measure, but you can garble the email afterwards.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What does garble mean in this context? What would be accomplished by removing your email after registration?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

If we get pwned, or otherwise compromised, one cannot tie your username to an email. The same reason the OP doesn't want to provide an email I guess.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

db0 require email for registration.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Just use a disposable one-time mail?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

[email protected]

exists and is decently active.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

slrpnk.net doesn't require an email, makes it optional in case you want it for password recovery. And as far as I know it doesn't have the restrictions you mention.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't see how required an email means they don't care about privacy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

I agree. If you're worried about it, set up a free gmail account to use for validation, problem solved.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Email is optional on lemmy.sdf.org.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

... and you're blocked.

Amazing that this person thinks spamming is going to improve anything.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Noice. One less negative person.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Funny, that's what I was thinking as I blocked your spammy ass!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Noice, Two less negative people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

For the first problem, just use a throwaway email service (I like temp-mail.org) to make your account.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

https://communick.news/ fits all you requirements regarding users - only paying members can join, so the instance is pretty much guaranteed to be protected from spammers and bots.

Regarding your communities: I really rather keep a strict separation between "instances for communities" and "instances for groups". The topic-specific instances I am running are meant for specific niches, but perhaps I can find one domain that can be used for more "generic" subjects. Would you be interested in that?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Sh.itjust.works didn't require email when I made my account, but I couldn't say for sure if that's still the case

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