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Madonna ‘Donna’ Kashanian, 64, was taken by plainclothes officers from her home in New Orleans

A 64-year-old Iranian woman, who has lived in the US for 47 years, was detained by immigration agents on Sunday morning while gardening outside her home in New Orleans.

According to a witness, plainclothes officers in unmarked vehicles handcuffed Madonna “Donna” Kashanian and transported her to a Mississippi jail before transferring her to the South Louisiana Ice processing center in Basile, reports Nola.

Kashanian arrived in the US in 1978 on a student visa and later applied for asylum, citing fears of persecution due to her father’s ties to the US-backed Shah of Iran. Her asylum request was ultimately denied, but she was granted a stay of removal on the condition she comply with immigration requirements, a condition her family says she always met.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago

Make America white again

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"gardening" moar liek enriching uranium amirite

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

She left Iran as a child fleeing the persecution of the regime that enriches uranium for a nuclear weapons program.

It's a complete travesty these ICE thugs may deport this woman to that same regime because they're trying to meet a fucking quota.

But sure, good joke bro. The Ayatollah is the good guy because US is the bad guy. Ever consider they might both be bad guys and this woman is going to suffer because of it?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago

She left Iran as a child fleeing the persecution of the regime

installed by the US? That one?

that enriches uranium for a nuclear weapons program.

No evidence of this. But they will now. And good for them. Attacked by not one, but two international lunatic terrorist regimes, wouldn't you?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think the previous comment may have added a /s if it was not the fact that, in reality, it may be the American Regime excuse.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What's the Ayatollah regime's excuse for beating women to death for showing their hair? That regime may not be the good guys...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You seem to be taking this joke too seriously, maybe you should leave this thread.

See you, Space Cowboy

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sorry, I didn't realize this story about an innocent women potentially being deported to a country that beats women to death was intended to be a feel good jokey kind of thread. My mistake, I guess.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

No one said it was a "feel good" story. The other person is using sarcasm to cope. Something very common and also shown in other comments of this story.

If you don't like it, don't respond. No one is forcing you to provide an opinion on everything. Be less of a dick.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wow what heroes, saving us from a little old lady.

ICE needs to be abolished.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago

ICE needs to be tried as terrorists and summarily executed

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

wow, I'm sure that little old Iranian lady sure could've been a threat to other people with her melanin content, thanks Trump for saving the US from disaster /s

[–] [email protected] 82 points 2 days ago (7 children)

How can trumpers not see that ICE is pissing our money away just to torture good people?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago

Democratic administrations actually deported more people than Republicans. But the difference is that Democrats do so with case by case consideration and by the book; Republicans, meanwhile, wants to do away with the bureaucracy and blanket deport anyone who have any iota of questionable immigration status. This is precisely what Trumpers want-- get rid of people they don't like by doing away with the rules that hinder their desires.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Trumpers only see Trumpers as "good people." if they could press a button and watch everyone around them who isn't one die in agony for the schaudenfreude of it, they would.

That's why they're trying to turn empathy into a character deficit and slur.

This is what separates them from everyone else. I'm an extreme leftist, something some low information Americans incorrectly paint as just as extreme as the MAGA cult, when I want that MAGA cult to have access to Healthcare based on need, higher Ed based solely on merit, conditionless housing and social supports, while they want me dead, and preferably painfully.

I pity them because they were made by for profit media propaganda meant to divide and profit.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The really stupid thing is, this woman might have been pro-Trump, there are other minorities that are. Trump people are so short sighted.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago

Drumpf doesn't need voters no more.......

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

to have access to Healthcare based on need, higher Ed based solely on merit,

Who will evaluate need and merit?

"Meritocracy" is the one word communists here in Russia use that I've learned to absolutely hate, they mean by that a hierarchical system where it's administratively decided who behaved well and who didn't.

See, that's the problem with leftists, always trying to use contrasts to make their virtue signaling look better.

Most leftists are like "we haven't yet invented a system, but we will compare an imagined one fulfilling all our desires to the worst real world ones". And those who are inventing systems, are the least popular - cause such a thought experiment system will already be worse than one fulfilling all desires. Not talking sweet enough.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Who will evaluate need and merit?

Doctors and academic performance records aka grades weighed by academics, not bloodsucking capitalist leeches.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Any metric used as a KPI stops being useful as a metric, have you heard that?

The very moment academics and such are going to decide on real power, you'll have the right academics emerge, of "scientific communism professors" kind.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

If they outline their methodology and outcomes, if science indicates an economic system will maximize wellbeing for the most individuals in a society, it should be our system based on the information available. And it should change if new data supercedes the old.

Capitalism has proven to be incompatible with democracy over time and detrimental to any social contract. It's a "die alone" economic system on a planet we need to care for and live together on. We ain't getting to mars, we're killing the planet the human habitability of the world we came from and this was super easy baby just don't shit where you sleep mode and we keep proving we can't even do that.

I'll never understand people that denegrate the scientific community. They and their predecessors are the reason you aren't going to be dead by 30, why we're even able to bitch on the internet right now. The scientific method and community have done more for humanity in 500 years than every theologen and diety mankind has ever been inspired to pull out of their ass.

Capitalism will end in the next 50 years, either by murder of it or the mass ecological suicide it causes. It's pathetic how many people that are willing to end the species so they can pretend they'll be rich the rich assholes living on the poors backs one day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

It's as if you hadn't read the comment you're answering.

I'm not denigrating anything. I'm saying that "scientific communism" is not science, even if it officially is called that. It's like doctors of theology teaching you how to build a society. And any "scientific approach to governing" will lead to such a substitution, because people really holding power will invent that to keep it in fact.

And I see that you completely ignored the part about metrics used as KPIs always being gamed, thus hierarchical meritocracy plainly not being possible.

has proven to be incompatible with democracy over time and detrimental to any social contract

I've got gangbanged with downvotes recently for reminding that capitalism is literally the first "formation", if we play by Marx, in relative modernity (antique Mediterranean was a whole different thing, but it relied upon good climatic conditions, good connectivity allowing Egypt to feed the whole of it, common ethnically and religiously pluralist cultural space, and slavery), to offer horizontal mobility of the kind we consider normal, and vertical mobility to a bigger extent than before.

The person I was answering to thought that in a medieval town before capitalism you could just make a thing and sell it. In fact to make a shoe you had to be a shoemaker (by inheritance or by apprenticeship if the master had no children or decided to disinherit them, or by guild if in a bigger town), and if you weren't, making a shoe even for yourself was considered stealing from the shoemakers.

It's funny how, say, Robin Hood stories show it as it was, and those are supposed to be known enough, but people have such misconceptions.

Or even Tolkien's Shire - look closely how Hobbits' life looks.

A person would literally grow as a non-uniform piece of a non-uniform fabric of the medieval society, they couldn't significantly change their place whether they were a peasant or a prince. Being born a son of a carpenter, you wouldn't become cook. If you were the oldest son, you were expected to take on their trade and role of the carpenter in this particular place or part of the city, or to work for the oldest son. You were judged by the surrounding people if you didn't. If you were the younger son, it was a bit more normal to seek apprenticeship of some other specialty, maybe. So the cookshop's master could take you as an apprentice, if all his sons would go rogue and not take on his trade, or maybe not, but then even after ending your apprenticeship you'd work for the cook, not be the cook in that cookshop. You couldn't just open your own cookshop without like everyone approving it. It was a rare event. People in a medieval town wouldn't understand why they need a third carpenter if there are two carpenters and it always was so. Or why they need a second cookshop if the existing one was always here. It required significant changes - the town's role growing and it needing to accommodate newcomers, or a neighboring town being razed, thus the balance changing.

So - the purpose of this text was to explain that capitalism has achieved quite a lot. And when you are making a change, it's not a win-win game, you can both gain something you didn't have and lose something you had.

Anyway. All this is bullshit. The only ideological virtue humans can have is being able to, quoting Kipling, "... watch the things you gave your life to, broken, and stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools". That's because our kind is absolutely incapable of seeing and valuing what we already have and separating dreams of what we don't from the reality of what we'll get trying to achieve that. Everything comes to ruin.

So the only good trait of a clearly political ideology would be wide participation and rotation, so that as many people as possible were contributors of a political system. A cook can govern a state (as Lenin said), it's just important that it's not one cook, but many cooks, and that none of them keeps a position of power long enough to start thinking they know something, and that none of them can take a position of power predictably.

As you might have noticed, this is the opposite of any meritocracy with "wise elders" deciding who deserves to be assigned to a post and role and who doesn't.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why is it even a question? Would you rather live in a plague of nepobabies? Meritocracy isn't some stretched definition or vague notion being chased.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

It is both. No human can be entrusted evaluating merit for the "meritocracy" word to form, that is, to defined a hierarchy.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They don't actually care about pissing money away. They enjoy good people getting tortured because they hate them and do not see them as people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

They do see them as people, but specifically bad people. A non-person would be beneath their notice. A bad person on the other hand, becomes the target of their wrath and cruelty and it is justified to do this to them because they are bad.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

They enjoy the torment. They're sadists.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

It's your money they're using, so why would they care ?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The Trumper cult will hate and kill at any cost. That's their main MO, hatred and to inflict pain. They are 100% objectively bad people.

In a lot of situations there are just good people in bad situations, but no, these are, by any measure, simply bad (sub)humans. They are irredeemable sociopaths and a net negative on society.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What kind of gardening? Violent gardening? Was she sowing the seeds of discontent?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

She's a threat to American capitalist agriculture!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

She was just gardening there! Menacingly!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

She was gardening right at me!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

She's got a dandelion!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hopefully she will go onto raising grapes of wrath. The Trump Regime is in dire need of divine judgment.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I don't understand why they denied her asylum. The case seems really straightforward.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

Maybe Trump thought she was Hannibal Lector.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Likely because her reasoning and fears were at odds with our geopolitics. It'd be like us accepting South Korean refugees for their fear of North Korean reprisal...if North Korea had largely been subsumed and the war was over for several years.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Your analogy makes no sense. This woman came here in 1978 and the Shah was booted in 1979. It is entirely believable that she would have faced reprisals in Iran during the massacres of 1981.

I don't know why this woman was denied asylum but her request was well justified by events.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

She first came in as a student in 78 but applied for asylum later. And that kind of thing can take a long time to process, years even.

To put it more directly, accepting her request would be a tacit admission that US foreign policy made Iran a more dangerous place, not by accident, but as a side effect of its success.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

The US has swaths of Iranian refugees both new and old. They probably ran her claims and determined that she would not be in direct danger. I have been heavily involved in the refugee community for a long time.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

She arrived before the Iranian revolution. Going back after the revolution with a Western education means at the very least she would have been deemed very very very suspicious. And why would a new paranoid religious government take the risk at all? Easier to purge.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

She wasn't a white South African. 😐

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

They have zero compassion, zero empathy, zero humanity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

And a lot of them have families and children, who will mirror these ideals in generations to come

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

No, you see, she’s trafficking fentanyl. She’s one of the awful criminals he promised to lock up. /s

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

What are these immigration requirements? Surely if she breached them, it would be an easy thing to point out?