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U.S. Senators Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) and Tim Sheehy (R-Mont.) introduced the Warrior Right to Repair Act of 2025, legislation that would require contractors to provide the Department of Defense (DoD) with access to technical data and materials the military needs to repair and maintain its own equipment.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago

What about the civilian right to repair.

Why can’t we all just be allowed to fix all of our shit. Sell me parts, let me open up things and poke around without illegals saying I violated the warranty.

[–] [email protected] 207 points 3 days ago (6 children)

How about extending this to cover your humble civilians too

[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago

This is for civilians, we're the ones paying the repair bills.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

If this passes for the military, then that will mandate the creation of a parts supply chain, as well as documentation and manuals for maintenance and repair, for whatever the military buys. Once that stuff is created, it'll be a lot easier to mandate that the existing stuff be made available to the public, too.

That might not make much of a difference for a guided bomb, but it'll make a huge difference for the huge amount of commercial off the shelf stuff that the military buys: laptops, routers, tablets, phones, civilian vehicles, tools, other basic equipment.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

When civilians want something, it's always "those poor corporations!"

At least with the bill focused on military you can put forward the importance of "combat readiness", "supporting the troops", "taxpayer dollars", and other things that politicians often say they care about.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

I imagine it's a lot easier to expand to civilians later than to get a bill through without the military/government benefitting first.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Buy military surplus equipment, I guess?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago

Don't worry. We prioritize the military over healthcare, wealth disparity, hunger, homelessness, cost of living, climate change, etc. This issue will be resolved right quick.

But fuck veterans. They can go fuck off and die.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Drop the word "military" and I'm onboard.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Any legal precedent for this has to be a win right?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

It might have some side effects of affecting more than just the military, but codified right to repair into law is never going to be a bad thing IMO.

[–] [email protected] 98 points 3 days ago (6 children)

So the military has been bound by the same handcuffs that McDonalds is with it's ice cream machines?

It was messed up that McDonalds agreed to that. It's TERRIFYING that the group in charge of our military ever did.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Yeah its absolutely wild. Even Louis Rossman has done some videos about the military's lack of right to repair. Its insane to me that you'd buy a multi-billion dollar jet like the F-35, and legally be unable to repair it without calling in (and paying a hefty service contract for) someone from Lockheed or Pratt and Whitney to troubleshoot it. That can't be sustainable if you do end up needing to send a ton of these things into combat

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 days ago

Not to mention the toxic incentives it creates when the vendor is the only one allowed to repair the thing they sold you. If they get a paycheck every time they repair the thing they build, then obviously they're gonna build that thing to break.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Exactly. This is completely insane. The DoD has the negotiating leverage to write these right to repair requirements into their RFPs, specifications, and contracts. The idea that their procurement offices simply failed to do this boggles my mind.

Back in the war, if you had a winning design, you were required to license it, full drawings included, to many different manufacturers at fair prices. The Defense Production Act is still on the books, and it contains a lot of power to control the economy. Why is DoD handcuffing themselves?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (3 children)

McDonald's was happy to do it because they're not really in the restaurant owning business. They force their franchisees to use the exact ice cream machine they get paid by Taylor to enforce. It's a literal racket

Now the military part... Yeah, that's fucked up, I always thought Uncle Sam got the right to repair their own shit but apparently not.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So the military has been bound by the same handcuffs that McDonalds is with it’s ice cream machines?

Yes... It's funny because I worked on a platform called the MLRS. I saw what repairs to the circuitry of the GPS and other modules look like. I could have fixed it myself... by hand... The circuit boards were vietnam era looking stuff (the platform was from the 80's, but developed during the 70s)... Meaning the trace pitch was measured in mm. Like I could pop open shit and eyeball and solder that shit with crappy $10 bargain bin soldering iron. But nah, needed to get a special civilian to show up and replace the board (they didn't even try to fix it).

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Unclear if you worked for the army, or for Mcdonalds. Either way you were probably paid about the same, and had to go to war every day.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Mcdonalds 20% less morally compromising, much worse benefits.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

About the same amount of mcrib.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Service contracts are where the money is at!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

A lot easy to hide grift in service contracts

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Gotta get that recurring revenue!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

McDonalds made money from the deal. They were paid by Taylor to force their franchisees to use their ice cream machines with the extortionist service contract.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The US military is not for national defense, it's a pay pig for a handful of corporations.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

idk why this is downvoted. literally all the US military does is make money for contractors, hopefully by cracking brown children's skulls, but that's just a bonus for them.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

While this isn't as far as I'd like them to go, this is extremely big news. The amount of money spent on absolute bullshit fees by defense contractors is bonkers. Us taxpayers are shelling out billions of dollars to buy a single jet that we then have to spend millions of dollars per year to maintain, simply because we aren't allowed to maintain it ourselves.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is really going to confuse MAGA. Pro-military but anti-corporate profits…

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

your first mistake was thinking anyone associated with maga will think this critically, lol

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That wasn't a thing already? Not a requirement for military orders?

You mean they could ship something into the military without proper documentation and bill it every time maintenance has to be done?

Some things in your land of the free seem to confuse me.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Boy oh boy really putting through the important shit huh? God damn do I hate our current politicians.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

This is important. Rossman did an interview with a few military techs, and here are few highlights

  • they couldn't get the router password (that they own) for troubleshooting. Imagine your ISP locked you out of the router?
  • it cost 200k to ship a 100k part because they weren't allowed to fix the broken one. 300k - thats a decent sized home in some areas, just to replace a wire or something. (Look up military pricing too, I remeber seeing something about how the military pays $400 for $4 bag of fuses)
  • they have to fly manufacture service techs that don't get schematics, if they need them, an engineer is flown out who closely guards them.

Its a complete waste of taxpayer money. Money that could be redirected into more important stuff, but alas our corrupt politicians will find other things to waste it on.

We're allowed to fix our own cars (although manufactures are trying to stop that), why can't the military fix their own equipment or farmers fix tractors? Get a foothold in the military sector and the rest will follow.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is important.

It's the downstream consequence of decades of outsourcing, kicked off in earnest in the Reagan Administration. "Right to Repair" is just the tip of an enormous iceberg of military privatization.

Money that could be redirected into more important stuff, but alas our corrupt politicians will find other things to waste it on.

That's the nut of it. This money is being wasted in the general sense. But it isn't wasted in the eyes of crony legislators and bureaucrats who see themselves on the receiving end of the kickback stream.

This goes back to the BBB and its rampage through some of the most high efficiency Medicaid programs on offer, in order to shuttle somewhere between $175B and $541B (depending on who is counting) to a national security system that's just legions of badged up bullies harassing locals for the entertainment of a few hooting chuds.

why can’t the military fix their own equipment or farmers fix tractors?

Because

and SaaS is how corporate industry has decided it will continue to grow its profits indefinitely.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So finally they’ve figured out that “privatization” is a shitty idea. Not only does it introduce another point of failure in logistics and operations, but the private sector doesn’t mind trying to make every contract on they can retire off of using taxpayer money.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

This has nothing to do with privatization, at least not in the sense you seem to mean. It has everything to do with ownership, and the military wants to actually own the products it buys.

This isn't going against the private sector as a supplier of goods, it merely says if you sell to the military, the military actually owns that product instead of rents it.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Look up military pricing too, I remeber seeing something about how the military pays $400 for $4 bag of fuses

That "military pricing" is called "corruption". Despite everyone knowing that it happens in most militaries (or big b2b), it still is that.

Its a complete waste of taxpayer money. Money that could be redirected into more important stuff, but alas our corrupt politicians will find other things to waste it on.

I mean, you had a truly magnificent military budget for already 30 years after the nation which was supposed to be the problem solved by it started asking for food aid and falling apart into pieces.

When the funds are provided and it's certain they won't have to be used, the tasks existing expand to fill the budget.

The US military budget is so over the top that even things that it achieves are not so significantly different from what Russian military budget with Russian corruption achieves, yet its size utterly dwarfs that.

If US military budget were used as efficiently as that of, say, Poland, US military would have colonized most of the Solar system already. With actual people as colonists.

That's about that fiscal discipline the Republican party was supposedly in favor of, until it wasn't.

OK, I live in Russia, so shouldn't probably blabber too much about US politics.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

The entire military budget is a massive waste of taxpayers money.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean this genuinely is a good concept.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Liberals will fight for the rights of the military, while the military is being used on domestic soil to actively oppress our rights. Predictable as ever.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

perfect example of the tone-deaf left.

corporate democrats will never get it and are just "republican lite".

jackasses.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What is tone deaf about this?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

instead of pushing for a right to repair for all US citizens, including military, they instead opt for right to repair for military only.

this sends the message that corporate interests are far more valuable to political leaders than the needs of their constituency.

Warren looks great on paper, but given the opportunity she fails to deliver to the American public what is needed. she's no different than Joe Biden, Al Gore, Bill Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, etc. At the end of the day they serve their corporate masters and not the public.

if they did serve the public this wouldn't even be news because everyone would have had the right to repair decades ago.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Got it. Since what they did wasn't 100% perfect and a fix to everything, they are tone deaf and terrible politicians. It's a really good thing what they did, but since it doesn't help you personally, then it is a terrible thing. They recognized something that needed fixing that will save billions of taxpayer dollars and hurts large corporations, but since they didn't fix the thing that impacts you then it is bad.

Also, this is the OPPOSITE of sending the message that corporate interests are more valuable. This is saying that corporations that are making billions off taxpayer funded contracts will no longer be able to bilk us (as much).

Yes, they should absolutely go after the right to repair for everyone, but maybe (and I'm just spitballing here) Warren knows that she couldn't get the Republican majority to vote yes on a full package and went for the win she could get instead of blocking something that does do good. You do realize, right, that the Democrats do not have a majority anywhere in the federal government?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

maybe instead of trying to work with the fascist ideological cult, previously known as the Republican party, her and her fellow democrats should instead be focused on making it as difficult as possible for the current fascist regime to function?

maybe if they had a spine to stand up for what is best for the country we might not be facing the realistic threat of concentration camps in America.

they were elected to serve and protect American interests. tell me, how does working with the "obvious elephant" in the room serve and protect American interests?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

Laws for me, not for thee.

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