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You know, like "always split on 18," or "having kids is the most rewarding thing you can do in life."

What's that one bit of advice you got from a trusted friend that you know deep, deep down would just ruin your thing?

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[–] [email protected] 184 points 1 year ago (7 children)

"Choose a job you love and you will never have to work a day in your life."

or

"Do what you're passionate about."

Just no. Most things I like don't pay well and I started to resent the others while doing them professionally. Turning your hobby into your job is like setting your favorite song as your alarm. That's my experience at least.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Turning your hobby into your job is like setting your favorite song as your alarm.

That’s an excellent analogy, I’m going to steal it

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

I used to love computers and technology. Now I get an idea about something I want to do, regurgitate a bit, shudder, and quickly throw that idea on the shelf.

I can’t even stand looking at the inside of a computer these days. It was 3/4 of my personality when I was younger.

That analogy is perfect.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I love my job, I really do, but I wouldn't do it as a hobby. I don't think it's so much advice about making your hobbies a career, as it is about finding work you enjoy.

Video games, skateboarding, riding a motorcycle, all things I love, but no way I'd try to make a living at any of them.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

It depends, really. I turned my hobby into a profession and I am mostly happy. I lost a hobby, absolutely. I don't practice my craft much anymore outside of work, but I do have a job I really like. And I found new hobbies over the years. But yes, I did loose a hobby.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep.

Doing the thing you love, as your work, is a surefire way to hate the thing you once loved.

cause a lot of that love was born from the freedom to engage with it, and the escapism that it gave you.

Both of which completely disappear if you have to do it 9-5 or starve.

But like everything, theres always the exception. There are people out there, 9-5ing every day for 30 years the thing they love with no burnout.. and they are usually the ones held up as examples, not the 100,000 other people who tried it, burnt out, and hated everything.

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[–] [email protected] 137 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

"Just be yourself"

Ask any neurodivergent person how that goes.

We mask because we are often punished for being ourselves most of the time.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Can relate, when I start infodumping or talking in depth about stuff I enjoy I can see their eyes glaze over and they want to leave.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

As a religious trans person, it's deeply insulting how many anti-trans religious authorities say things like "don't let the world tell you who you are, trust in the voice of God in your own heart" or something, and then go all surprised Pikachu when I'm still trans afterwards.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

See also: “Just do (whatever task you’re struggling with).”

As if it’s as easy as that for everyone.

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[–] [email protected] 111 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Always give 110%, and one day your boss will notice and give you the promotion you deserve.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

20% of your effort produces 80% of your results, so giving 40% effort at work should be plenty. Don't even half ass it.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago

Professionals are consistent and businesses are risk averse. It’s easier and more valued to be reliable. Learning to do enough is an important skill.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

A lot of the advice in this thread is situationally good but this... is essentially universally bad advice.

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[–] [email protected] 104 points 1 year ago (3 children)

“Bring your authentic self to work”

Was pretty prevalent in tech for a while. Fuck no I’m not doing that.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I have worked in the same office for 22 years, no one knows my birthday, what my hobbies are or where I live other than "downtown". There is work me and then the real me and never the twain shall meet.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (6 children)

You sound like me. Do you want to not hang out sometime?

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is sadly very true. Keep most of your coworkers, especially bosses, on a low information diet. It's like dealing with the police. Some of them will try to use anything you say against you in the court of HR.

This is not to say you can't make any friends at work. Just be very careful in who you pick. Make sure the person is trustworthy (and you know as much about them as they know about you).

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (10 children)

If you don't succeed, try and try again.

It leaves out the steps where you figure out why you think you failed the first time so trying again with a different approach has a chance of success instead of just failing over and over again.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

There’s also a good quote about repeating the same thing over and over again being the definition of insanity. Some platitudes are useful

Edit: repeating the same thing and expecting a different outcome. Attributed to Einstein, but who knows

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Der klügere gibt nach" which directly translates to "the wiser one gives in" or more or less matches the idiom "it's better to bend than to break".

Growing up I heard this a lot and it's mostly use to silence those who have (well-founded) objections. Took me a while to realize that this leads to us following the stupid because they don't give in which subsequently makes the wise one the stupid one.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The Idiom is regularly abused and misunderstood. Its about being smart what fights are worth fighting. Often heard by kids from their Patents when they fight over "nothing"

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Never give up".

Sometimes you're wasting your time and should give up. Better advice would be "decide how much you're willing to give to this before you start".

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Also see: sunk cost fallacy

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (6 children)

"All kids think they are smarter than their parents." - my father, constantly growing up

What I learned: Never tell anyone else how to think or feel about anything. Anyone that tries to shape your thinking directly is a fool.

Intelligence is like beauty, we don't have a very good frame of reference to perceive ourselves. Physical beauty is largely measured by the reactions of others. Like beauty, intelligence has many facets. However my favorite measuring stick is curiosity. This is how I overcame my father's admonition; while curiosity does not guarantee intelligence, an intelligent person is always curious.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just be yourself.

There is a reason people hide who they really are until you get to know them.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just be yourself! Eww, not like that!

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (4 children)

"Ground yourself to be safe with electricity".

Some people out there seem to treat grounding as a magical means for controlling electricity. Even in so far as it's true at all, you have to consider the situation and how it might move across your body.

Telling a teenager "enjoy these years, they're the best ones of your life".

First, tell that to a teenager undergoing severe depression is the opposite of helpful. Second, you just admitted to leading a shitty life. You got to 20 and the next 50 years were garbage?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Enjoy all of your years. I feel like each decade of my life has had amazing parts, and also shitty parts. They have all been objectively different though. Try to focus on the amazing parts and enjoy them, but also make sure to learn from the shitty parts.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Anything about god taking you to and through things, or prayer. How's that working for Ukraine or Gaza or a ton of other places with war, famine, violence, trafficking, etc.? Also, anything that refers to "fighting" cancer or other diseases - too bad your person is gone because they didn't fight harder.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This reminds me of this story about the concentration camps. "If there is a god they will have to beg for our forgiveness"

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"be yourself" doesn't work if your natural self is bad.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Venn diagram for "advice" and "bad advice" is almost a perfect circle. In general, advice is only good if three conditions are met:

  1. it was requested or at least clearly implied to be welcome.
  2. it's given under a solid grasp of the situation, or after some serious thought.
  3. it's not assumptive in nature. And, if generalising, it takes into account that generalisations fail.

Those sayings - like in the OP - almost always violate #2 and #3. And usually #1, as it's that sort of thing that people vomit on your face when they're really, really eager to treat you like cattle to be herded.


Okay... example. Right. Acquaintance of mine saying that I should work with computers - because I use Linux, because I can recover a password, because I can spend ten minutes (I'm not exaggerating) trying to parse what he's asking help with. Under that "if u like it than make it you're job! lol" approach.

Yeah... nah.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Neither of these is dead wrong but were rules of thumb that oversimplify changing and complex issues in the US:

"stay away from credit cards" - often prevents people from actually learning about how underlying mechanisms of loans, interest, credit ratings, and budgeting work. There are definitely people incapable of having access to credit and not spending it, so the saying may be true for a subset but if you always pay your bill in full on time and just use autopay so you don't forget, you're leaving 1-5% annual rebate for almost all your spend on the table. If you play credit card churning games, much more.

"The only things worth going into debt for are a home and education." - while accurate in the US for decades, the applicability or even accuracy of this statement is now dubious depending on many factors: career field and interests for education; interest rates, geography and housing prices for homes.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The entire "credit rating" system is totally insane and dystopian for people outside the US. Where I am from, we only ever register bad credit, not good credit. If you want to buy a house and need to get a mortgage they can ask for your credit rating. But that only shows how much your current obligations to other creditors are, and whether you have had trouble paying them. And you only cartain obligations are allowed to be shown on such a report.

In my country, someone with no credit card history whatsoever is in a better position to get a mortgage than someone who has a credit card and pays it off every month. The fact that the US is the reverse is just mad.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (9 children)

"stay away from credit cards"

I followed this advice in my youth. Never applied for a credit card, never took out a loan, never bought anything I couldn't afford to drop cash on. I thought it would show I'm fiscally responsible because I'm not accruing debt.

Then I got an opportunity to work a govt job providing communications for the White House; basically, following the president around and ensuring he's able to communicate at press events, etc. I applied for the job and was told I was their #1 candidate...

...But they ran a credit check on me and was surprised when they got zero results. I proudly stated that I've never been in debt before, so my credit risk is zero. But according to them, zero credit history is shady as fuck. They said they couldn't tell how well I manage money because there's no history showing regular, on-time payments on credit cards, loans, etc.

They couldn't tell if I had trouble managing money or not. That made me a potential bribe risk. Someone could offer me tons of money to slip a bomb into the president's podium, or let a suspicious character into the White House, and if I'm hurting enough for money, they suspect I might be willing to do it.

Literally, my entire history of service in the govt had no bearing on my loyalty. Only my credit score. I lost that job opportunity because I was fiscally responsible.

I went out and got a credit card that same day. I now have an extremely high credit score, which I keep up by paying all my bills and utilities on credit, then paying off almost all of it at the end of the month. I think it's stupid that I need to put myself in debt, then pay my way out of it over time, spending even more money in the long run, just to prove I'm fiscally responsible. That should prove that I suck at managing money, not the other way around. But that's the broken system we have today.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

But you should do that one. Just don't expect it to be windows with a different coat of paint and you will be fine.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd say most of single-sentence advice falls under "dubious" advice, as it really lacks any kind of nuance. It can be a guideline and perhaps words to live by, but it will rarely help in concrete situations where more specific context should be considered.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

My mum always used to say "Everything works out in the end" or something else equally trite until the day I snapped "Yeah thats why theres a suicide help line, because everything always works out in the end for everybody."

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"Look before you leap" vs "He who hesitates is lost"

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Most chess advice. It teaches you to think in simple terms without actually thinking about a position. It’s good if you want to get passably good, but it’s a handicap once you improve.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

That applies to most fields, doesn't it? Any heuristic will be a simplification and becoming an expert in any domain involves knowing when you can apply a heuristic or approximation or model and when you cannot.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Most one sentance advice is just a deepity

Generally, a deepity has (at least) two meanings: one that is true but trivial, and another that sounds profound, but is essentially false or meaningless and would be "earth-shattering" if true. To the extent that it's true, it doesn't have to matter. To the extent that it has to matter, it isn't true (if it actually means anything). This second meaning has also been called "pseudo-profound bullshit".

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"If you ain't doin' shots get the fuck out the club"

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

get the fuck out the club

That's legit good advice

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