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[–] [email protected] 49 points 10 months ago

"Thank god you're here, man openly carrying! I feel so much safer around you!"

"Heh. Yeah, I'm sure. People respect me when I'm carrying."

"Oh, no, I don't mean it like that. I mean that if an actual gunman starts shooting, you're a much higher priority target, giving me enough time to run away. Thank you for painting a target on yourself for us!"

[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (11 children)

There are actual reasons for people to open carry a gun. Main goal is to normalize it. Where I live a lot of people open carry, and it's no big deal, no one really cares or notices.

My neighbor moved here from California though, and she was initially terrified every time she saw someone carrying a gun here. But after awhile she got used to it as well. I haven't asked her what her current opinion is on guns, but I know she went from terrified to not caring, which would be considered a positive change from the people who are open carrying around town.

That said, I don't get the impression that most people who open carry are doing it for that reason, usually seems like it more because they want to show off.

[–] [email protected] 137 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Why should we normalize carrying weapons around in daily life?

[–] [email protected] 83 points 10 months ago

They have to protect themselves from all the people carrying weapons around them, of course!

[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago

It makes sense when you realize these people are abject fucking cowards that can’t leave the house without their emotional support firearm.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They yearn for the old cowboy days.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 10 months ago

Normalize carrying a deadly weapon that can near-instantly kill several people at once everywhere you go... You realize how insane that sounds, right!? Other countries are laughing at us!

[–] [email protected] 49 points 10 months ago

Inferiority complexes do that to people.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago

You were so concerned with the undesirability of fear that you forgot why humans naturally experience fear in the first place.

"Don't worry, if you keep your hand on the burner long enough, you'll feel nothing at all!"

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago

Normalize carrying rpg's to the grocery store to protect yourself from dad pranks like tapping your shoulder

/s

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

I see no reason to normalize open carry when even just owning a firearm, on its own, increases your chance to be killed by a gun for both suicide and homicide. Firearm ownership itself should not be normalized, as a matter of public health.

I get that it makes people feel safer, but it does not actually make them safer. If you don't have an obvious reason to have a firearm, like defending livestock, living in a high-risk environment, or as protection against wild animals, then you are objectively safer not owning one.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

Normalize something that shouldn't exist, and has no reason to?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

If your purpose is to normalize it, and it's normal where you live, then you can stop.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Good old Lemmy, where providing a different perspective gets you downvoted to hell simply because it's not the popular view. I'd even say we are much worse than Reddit when it comes to this, which is ironic.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I really hope this was at a competition. If this guy dresses up like this just to go out, he's got to have a horrible personality.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Who needs a personality when you've got guns

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How ironic would it be if this guy was killed in a knife fight.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago (3 children)

All I'm reading here is "How dare people do something I disagree with in public?".

To be fair, I'm no US American, so I wouldn't know if open carrying itself is a problem, instead of just being a political statement.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It's not really an actual problem more than it is a fashion statement, which is against the ideals of people trying to use it as a legitimate self defense tool if all else fails.

Most people want to live a normal life. Go to places with family and friends etc. Having a gun is a personal choice, and those that choose to carry usually feel that if they have the capability to carry legally and safely to do so just in case no other help can get to you in time. Similar to wearing a seatbelt without expecting an accident to occur. And if it's not for you it's okay we understand.

Open carry has a place. On police officers, in wilderness areas where predators are common, and on range days. But at a restaurant or store is NOT one of those places you should open carry even if you can legally.

It brings all the attention to you and your gun and usually gives off a negative first impression. Any "bad guy" will simply target you first and by surprise. Or take your gun's value as a sign of how much expendable income you have. And it brings about unwanted interactions as seen in the comic, but if you are open carrying maybe you are probably looking for that reaction and in that case it's not purely self defense it's attention seeking.

I carry a concealed gun when I can, I respect responsible gun owners but open carry people are not responsible in my eyes. They make us all look bad imo.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

You're also leaving out that some people feel uncomfortable around firearms. Always forgetting about empathy. I could walk around with clothing that makes people feel uncomfortable, but I don't because that would be inconsiderate of me.

Also, just FYI, even CC doesn't really help you. It puts you more at risk in most cases, and it's often especially bad when dealing with cops. Of course that depends a lot on where you are and what you look like though. Some cops might show you respect for CCing, rather than the typical fear and panic. If you need to use it, a "good guy with a gun" looks exactly the same as the bad guy.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah it goes without saying that a gun being displayed out in the open by an unknown person is going to make people uncomfortable, and nobody will want to talk to them.

I've talked with my local cops when I was a firefighter. They are okay with concealed carry and understand it's a increasingly common thing. They told me to be sure my weapon was holstered or dropped as soon as it isn't needed anymore and wait for them to arrive.

Long response times in my area is the biggest thing for me. That's not just a factor for guns but also for the medical stuff and fire extinguisher I have in my car because fire/ems is the same way.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Have you ever heard of the expression "When you have a hammer, every problem looks like a nail"?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If that is what this comic is about, then why specifically single out open carrying?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (7 children)

I live in a country where carrying weapons isn't a thing. But being that it's lawfull in the country where this comic is supposedly happening can you imagine walking into a bar and some random chick starts screaming at you like that?

Imagine if instead of a chick screaming about the guy it would be a guy screaming about a chick with purple hair?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Imagine if instead of a chick screaming about the guy it would be a guy screaming about a chick with purple hair?

Purple hair doesn't kill people.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Neither does the act of putting a gun in a holster, does it? It's not like she's screaming at a guy brandishing a gun around, was she? Now that would be something worthy of screaming about.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Neither does the act of putting a gun in a holster, does it?

Lol look up accidental deaths from guns in the US. Having a gun in any situation ups the chance someone will be shot or die. We hear about it on the news all the time. People left their gun in a bathroom, people didn't use their holster right and shot themselves/someone else, a child got their parent's gun and harmed themselves or someone else. I've literally watched people drop their gun out of the shitty holsters they buy.

So yes. Yes it does actually.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

Purple hair doesn't kill at distance, not as much as people claim it does.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Imagine if instead of a chick screaming about the guy it would be a guy screaming about a chick with purple hair?

I'm going to blow your mind here, but this was a comic strip and the character was drawn to be announcing things as a representation of what's happening inside the mind of the subject walking. It's an artistic/comedic effect and to take it literally or even remotely as a "both sides" issue is peak... something I can't say without getting banned most likely.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

We need more public pole arms and coinbags made of worn leather sashed onto one's great belt.

More ninja outfits. More people dressed up like Joker. I want peak Joker.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

One of the things that really angers me about supposed second amendment supporters is their quiet acceptance of laws infringing on my right to bear any arm that is not a gun. In most states where it is legal to carry guns around, there are way more restrictions on carrying things like knives, swords, polearms, etc.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I appreciate the art in this strip, it's well drawn, the flow is nice, I like the heavy contrast which complements the tone of the message.

It's just, I prefer comics to be funny.

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