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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/18749281

The Wisconsin English teacher, Jordan Cernek, argues in the suit that the district violated his freedom of religion and free speech in mandating the use of the students' preferred names and pronouns.

A high school English teacher is suing a Wisconsin school district, alleging it did not renew his contract last year because he refused to use the preferred names of two transgender students.

Jordan Cernek's federal lawsuit alleges the Argyle School District violated his constitutional and civil rights to be free of religious discrimination and to be able to express himself according to his religious beliefs when it did not renew his contract because he refused to abide by a requirement that teachers use the names or pronouns requested by students.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 154 points 7 months ago (2 children)

(Uplifting because a bigot got the consequences he deserved, not because the whiny piece of shit sued over it.)

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 34 points 7 months ago (5 children)

This does not seem uplifting.

Neither does your tone.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 102 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Asshole loses job because of said assholery is a reasonably uplifting news story I'd say.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 36 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Jo. And what faith even prohibits changing names? Bigotry? Or is that in some old book?

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Remember, God doesn't make mistakes. So if he made you in such a way that you want to change your name later in life you should just do it.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I completely don't get what those people do. Where I come from, you either don't believe in God, because you believe in facts. And you're nice to people because it's the right thing to do... Or you believe that God had a son (who is at the same time also him) and that son also told you to be nice to people.... So I don't get how people claim being an asshole is somehow mandated to them.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Because they aren't actually believers, they want to have a shield for being shitty. And the church will even help defend them.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Clearly God made folks a specific way and that shouldn't be altered, which is why I'm against glasses and braces. /s

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Plastic surgery, too. Fox "News" presenters have boob jobs, nose jobs, veneers, fake tans, and dye jobs, and they have the nerve to say people shouldn't alter their bodies.

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[–] snooggums@midwest.social 30 points 7 months ago

If someone thinks the kids deserve to be respected more than some bigot needs the ability to bully those kids it is pretty uplifting.

I guess you don't think the kids deserve respect.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 18 points 7 months ago

Hate speech isn’t protected. This is hate speech. And he’s doing it to cause emotional distress.

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[–] Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 109 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The teacher believes he is being discriminated against because the state won't allow him to discriminate against society's most vulnerable members, who happen to be in his care.

You can't make this stuff up.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 25 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I hope he gets hit by a car

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's horrible!

I hope a car slowly parks on top of him

[–] SirQuackTheDuck@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

The Austin Powers steamroller would like a word

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

I hope every time he gets out of bed he steps on a Lego. And when he hops off it in pain, he hops onto another Lego. Every time he goes barefoot, he steps on a Lego. For the rest of his life.

[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 71 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm currently working at a school with a trans kid. She's an absolute delight and if I hear anyone in the district dead name her, there will be hell to pay. I'm so glad schools are getting rid if jackasses like this guy.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago (3 children)

What does the student have down on their paperwork? I'm just thinking that there could be some confusion if the old name was on everything instead of their preferred name.

Does someone at the school try to correct the records in some way in that situation?

[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Our system actually has a fill in for preferred names for both faculty and students and will use that on all documents if you check the box. I myself use it and my badge, logins, and even timeclock have my nickname instead of my legal name. I only know her real name because her dossier was upfront about being trans.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

That's cool. Thank you for actually providing an answer to my questions. Much appreciated

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Official documentation doesn't have any bearing on what you call someone in class. It's literally no different than calling William by his preferred name of Will.

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[–] ravhall@discuss.online 51 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Back in the 90s, most of my teachers would ask the class on the first day if they had any (school appropriate) nicknames they prefer to be called.

Just make this a requirement.

[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My 6th grade teacher did exactly this, but went beyond normal nicknames and said if there's ANYTHING you want to be called she would use that name instead. Granted, every teacher before that would hear the nicknames and just use them anyway, but this one went a step beyond that.

Not a single kid used their birth name. Some used regular nicknames, some used their parents nickname for them, and some chose something else. I went the cringier route and chose "silent hill because I like that game and I'm usually quiet" and sure enough she called me that all year. Had the nicknames down by the end of the week and still knew each child's real name for when she's talking to other adults.

I don't see what the big deal is with using someone's preferred name. Legitimately the only reason to not use it in this context is to be a piece of shit.

[–] drasglaf@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago

Silent Hill LMAO, I love it. I once asked a teacher to call me Mega Man and she told me to fuck off.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Throughout all of my years at school, ending in late 2010s they always at some point around first day asked something similar too, but it was mostly just another name you go by rather than nickname.

Totally agree they should do something like that as a requirement, though.

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 6 points 7 months ago

A kid in my class hated his first name Courtney, and went by his middle name, Roger (preferably Rodge), because there were several other girls in our grade named Courtney, and people had made fun of him for having a “girls name,” even though Courtney is technically not gender specific.

[–] FederatedSaint@lemmy.world 47 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Please stop bringing this kind of crap into "uplifting news."

This is objectively sad news. I'm not happy a kid isn't getting supported by his teacher at school. While it's probably good he was fired for it, it's not what I'd call "uplifting" at all.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 34 points 7 months ago

Ah, allow me to introduce you to the orphan crushing machine. It was born of a tweet:

"Every heartwarming human interest story in america is like "he raised $20,000 to keep 200 orphans from being crushed in the orphan-crushing machine" and then never asks why an orphan-crushing machine exists or why you'd need to pay to prevent it from being used."

[–] radicalautonomy@lemmy.world 30 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I just had teacher trainings this week at the school district I am working for this year after moving from Texas to the PDX area. It was like night and day compared to Texas. The training began with Land Acknowledgements, and we spent a few hours learning about and discussing how we will be implementing cross-curricular activities on the culture, language, and practices of the Native American tribes from this area. I teared up, I gotta tell ya.

But the thing that really hit me the hardest was how comfortable I felt as a queer person. They asked us to put our pronouns on our name tent, and I initially put the ones I was assigned at birth (because I'm coming from Texas where I didn't dare let on that I wasn't cisgender). But I soon realized through discussions with the trainers and with people at mine and surrounding tables that this really is a safe place, that I can be myself and not fear repercussions that would affect my livelihood.

So I shared during discussions about privilege and power that I was non-binary, and nobody batted an eye, no microgestures indicating their discomfort, it was just...normal. Safe. I've never felt like this before. Every queer person...teacher, student, citizen, immigrant, or otherwise...should be allowed to feel like this.

[–] ThelittleDoe@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 7 months ago

EEEEEE, So glad you feel comfortable here! ^^ I love it when people mention that. Not to say we're perfect, far from it, but safe, we do try to be. c: (Growing up here in the closet, especially during high school, was difficult but not impossible x.x Was able to get put on hormones the same day I was diagnosed with GD. So glad I had the resources to use once I was 18.)

[–] yuki2501@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago

Repeat after me: There's a difference between free speech and being a bigot.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No part of Christianity says anything about names.

Dude's just a bigot.

Thank fuck for Janet p on the Wisconsin supreme court!

[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This is not uplifting. This is a lose-lose as it's the type of case that this particular Supreme Court loves to add to their docket.

Eventually, SCOTUS will either rule that this does in fact violate his religious rights, or they will make a ruling siding with the school district that destroys part of the civil rights act, which is cited all throughout his filing:

"...repeatedly cites the 1964 Civil Rights Act and its Title VII section prohibiting workplace discrimination

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 10 points 7 months ago

Fuck that guy.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Most teachers will get really mad if their students casually call them by their first name.

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