Unconfirmed reports that Assad's plane has been shot down:
This is develping, so take it with a grain of salt.
this post was submitted on 08 Dec 2024
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Holy shit, this just gets crazier and crazier
Could be faking his own death so he isn't tracked down and killed.
RIP BOZO
Pieces, for sure
To shreds you say?
Gotta say, its good Assad's gone, but HTS does not sound much better.
The statements their leader have made seems promising. Cooperation with the UN, peaceful overhanding of power etc. But they stem from Al-Qaeda so let's hope this doesn't age like milk..
The statements their leader have made seems promising.
He is making the right noises, but then again so did the Taliban when they took control of Afghanistan.
My point exactly
The taliban had no allies, resources or much established that was at stake, thus no real incentive to follow through. They were just testing the waters to see if the world actually cared that much about those things or it was just a lot of noise. Turns out they were right, no country reciprocated on their statements, and so they just went back to their old ways.
HTS does actually have incentive to follow through here I think
Probably not, but at least for tonight we can celebrate
Yeah, they're saying all the right things right now but their past associations with al Qaeda and ISIS doesn't bode well.
Are they really saying the correct things?
I've seen plenty of interviews where where they say that "God is great" on repeat. Thats not what you want to hear from your potential governing body.
Can't tell if this is edgy Atheism or Islamophobia.
In the unlikely event you actually want to get out whichever bubble you're in, that phrase is extremely common in that part of the world. It's a nothing burger, calm down.
Theocratic rule, no matter which theology, never improves things for the citizens.
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Weird that part of the world is so dangerous for women, LGBTQ, atheists, Christians… anyone not Muslim…
Im sure it has nothing to do with their minds being stuck in ‘repeat religious phrases non-stop’ mode.
Yes it is a common phrase but how many governments honestly benefited from having a religious influence? It's not phobic to be concerned that this new government will be created with any religious groups ideology as guidelines instead of foundational morals and freedoms at it's core.
To your point, removed hard r was a common phrase as well unfortunately is becoming more common again in the us.
Just because it's common doesn't mean it should not be laid ro rest
Religion as a base of government is shit, regardless of which make-belief you got bred with.
I don't like labels, cause they simplify an opinion you might hold. But i suppose i have some atheistic views, and that's it.
The enemy of my enemy is not as bad an enemy as the other enemy.
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Not sure if I would have preferred al-Assad having to live out the rest of his life in exile and constantly look over his own shoulder... Or seeing him imprisoned in Syria and/or publicly hanged for his crimes against humanity. But I guess with him having fled via plane, we'll all have to accept the former.
...15ft/s drop at the mysterious end of his flight path in the mountains: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/yk-ata#3844aec1
That's a rumor that's going around. The flight path makes no sense for a VIP (for example, flying over the city center of occupied Homs), and while it was pretty clearly a crash of a military plane, that doesn't at all imply it was al-Assad's. We don't know the destination, just that he boarded a plane, but I'm guessing we'll see him turn up soon enough.
Might've been trying to make it to the Russian Airbase near Latakia and may not have had clearance to fly over Lebanon. Might've been trying for Iraq originally, but got denied.
But yeah, whether or not that plane was carrying Assad is just speculation.
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Assad was a fucker who committed crimes against humanity and deserved to die. Unfortunately I don't have high hopes for whatever group of islamist fascists ends up arresting control.
(Time to find out if this is one of those subs that removes any comment even slightly critical of islam as "islamophobia"...)
Yah know, you didn't have to add that last caveat, most people already agreed with you
What do you mean? Why do you think I give a damn whether "most people" agree with what I'm saying or not?
(time to find out blah blah blah who gives a fuck) shows you do give a damn about whether "most people" agree with what you are saying or not.
Feel free to disagree all you want with my educated opinion that Mohammad was a child rapist and a violent warmonger with delusions of grandeur.
Most people are smart enough to know that there is a difference between disagreement and censors removing posts that they simply don't like.
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My best wishes to a free Rojava and may all Syrians get to experience a life of peace and freedom
I do hope so but HTS has some concerning links to IS.
2024 be like: I'm not done yet!!!
Can someone ELI5 what happened? I knew about the civil war but it had been effectively at a stalemate for a couple of years. How did the rebels suddenly surge like they did?
From what I know, this is the combination of three things
- Opposition rebel groups decided not to fight each other
- Assad had it's russian support cut out
- Blitz offensive lead by the opposition rebel groups, some of which had Turkish support lead to mayhem in Assad ranks
He relied primarily on Russian, Iranian, and Hezbollah support.
$$$ Assad must have run out of treasure
Iran and Russia used to be helping them, but Iran is in a shadow war with Israel and Russia is in a war with Ukraine + western allies. Their funding and personnel dried up.
Plus, the Syrian rebels banded together. Without Russian air support and airstrikes around the capital, and without iranian arms, their regime collapsed and ran to Russia like a bitch.
Will Syria be better now? It's anyone's guess. I could see Russia and China potentially making moves on them during the rebuild process, but who knows for sure. The US will probably pull out soon once the next government is formed in January. It could be up to the Syrian rebels and Syrian people, but their country infrastructure is pretty blown apart, so they will need outside capital and expertise to rebuild.
Professor: Good news, everyone!
That was damn fast, I didn't think they'd hit Damascus this week.
Too soon to know much for sure, but this could be fucking wild if it's really at face value.