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[–] [email protected] 141 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

mortality rate of 3% for unvaccinated kids.

gonna be a lot of depression-era grieving going on.

[–] [email protected] 115 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

as always the price is paid by those without a choice

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

People focus on mortality too while failing to account for the sorts of lifelong disabilities viruses like these cause when you do survive them. Absolutely sickening.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

the lifelong disabilities will be awful

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago

On the topic on non-mortal cases, this CDC page says the hospitalization rate for 2025 has been 20% (30% for <5 year olds)

https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

3 percent of kids dead is a small price to pay for Texans to not have to reevaluate how they make decisions.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago

They’ll never stop defending their right to let others die for their obstinacy.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Measles wipes your immune system as well. You'll be having a miserable next decade or longer getting sick from everything again.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

Can't wait to see conservative morons saying "hurr durr 3% isn't even that high of a percent"

[–] [email protected] 114 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Have fun fighting a culture war against pathogens, Texas

[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

They're just unaware that a war against a culture of microorganisms is an entirely different thing.

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[–] [email protected] 111 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (24 children)

We are careening toward the "end-game" for the rampant anti-intellectualism, anti-science, anti-critical thinking mind virus that plagued this country for at least the past 80 years.

This is what happens when you condition people for nearly a century, to get angry and defensive when someone who's more versed on a subject tries to teach them something (or god forbid, correct them). It has become a kneejerk reaction for so many Americans (mostly conservatives). They are so insecure that they view any type of education as a direct insult to them or some stupid bullshit like that. Like deep down, they know how ignorant they are, but for some reason they'd prefer to stay that way, so anyone who challenges that (regardless of how pure the motive), is a "smug piece of shit talking down to them."

And instead of even retaining what the person said, let alone learning it, they become even more radicalized against... well, reality.

I truly have no idea how something like this can ever be fixed at this level. We're talking over 50 million people give or take tens of millions (unsure how many have regrets).

And this is nation-ending shit.

Edit: Slightly related, but something I just thought about... Imagine if we ever have a prion-based pandemic (if that's possible?). That could straight up be the end of humankind. Prions are terrifying.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

This is what happens when you construct a society around screwing everyone else over while preaching cooperation. People stop trusting everything

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Ya got measles? Bring the kids over! We got enough raw milk for all of y'all!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Who's bringing the roadkill bear meat?

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 3 weeks ago (17 children)

Measles parties is the stupidest thing I heard. It is not chickenpox (although even chickenpox instead of vaccine causes risk of having shingles once you get older), it can cause serious health issues and even death.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

The chickenpox vaccine is relatively recent, and chickenpox parties were a good way to inoculate children who get only mild symptoms and very little danger from the disease compared to adults.

Nowadays, vaccines are 100% the best defense.

Measles is so much worse and it has never been a good idea to purposely subject yourself to that.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yep, the vaccine is recent enough that if you were born in the 90s or before, the vaccine wasn't available when you were of the right age to get it. I didn't even know we had a vaccine until probably 5 years ago.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And when the Great Corruption has settled over the land, and permeated the very foundations of reality itself, then shall the Lord of All rise from the rot and ruin, spread his arms wide to reclaim all his children.

May Grandpa nurgle bless everyone of them

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It'll continue to spread, as well. Last Friday, someone with contagious measles spent hours touring 2 Texas campuses, hours in college bars and restaurants, and hours in crowded tourist attractions. Next Friday, one of those colleges starts spring break - and it takes 2 weeks for the rash to start showing up. Some of those college students will have caught measles and will go on spring break, where they'll spread measles to other spring breakers. Three weeks from now, there'll be outbreaks in every state in the Union.

If you weren't vaxxed, you were under-vaxxed, not sure if you got vaxxed, or think the vax might not have taken, now it's an excellent time to get vaxxed.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It depends on how badly we've fallen under herd immunity, but it does seem likely.

You can catch measles by entering a room, such as a classroom, where another student had measles two hours before.

Unvaccinated people are going to pay for the ignorance of their parents real soon.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Unvaccinated, immunocompromised and babies under 2 years old are at risk. Vaccination is a collective effort to protect the most vulnerable.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

It’ll continue to spread, as well. Last Friday, someone with contagious measles spent hours touring 2 Texas campuses, hours in college bars and restaurants, and hours in crowded tourist attractions.

If accurate, this person belongs in fucking prison

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Measles can cause immune amnesia, meaning your immune system forgets past illnesses and will have to go through initial sicknesses again.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yup. It's why so many died, not from measles, but from other diseases in the 3-5 years after they had measles. IIRC they only really worked this out in the last 5-10 years because of the amount of data to comb through.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 weeks ago

Wow. Texas out-Texases Texas.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Way too many entries for the Darwin Awards this year

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

If we got the vaccine as a kid, we’re good to go, right?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Most likely, but the chance of getting it anyway isn't zero.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Saw a headline that the MMR vaccine may be reduced in effectiveness after 40-ish years. It's all breaking news since people being so backwards as to not be vaccinated in numbers to allow this kind of study to even materialize in a world that has a proven cure is certainly recent.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I got an MMR vaccine at 40 for a job, and only had to because my records from small town Canada weren’t available from my childhood vaccinations.

Crazy to me that it might actually matter.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

Yeah, you now have Autism

Trains or something IDK

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

You can ask to have your titers checked. I did mine about 5 years ago when it first started being reported that dipshits were doing their best to bring back measles and I was still well in the immune range but I'm glad I had it done. I had to tell my doctor I was traveling internationally to a country with lower vax rates (I was) to get him to agree, but I'd imagine doctors would be happy to check now.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Bye bye Texans, it was not nice knowing ya'll

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The majority of assholes in these areas are still vaccinated, unfortunately. It's the kids that will be suffering, from the decisions of their parents. If disease would eradicate the unvaccinated quickly enough to wipe out the texas undesirables, we wouldn't have had the current election outcome in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

As Hank Green said: They won’t start caring until the children start dying. He points to evidence that says that, vaccination rates decline due to mistrust or “health”, then kids start dying and they rise again. He uses multiple countries as historical examples, it’s great.

https://youtu.be/JCvLbT1uXXg

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

Yup. The bible belt in the netherlands was a great contributor to the study of epidemics. Measles outbreaks are very consistent. Every 10 years an outbreak occurs there.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 weeks ago

What the fuck is it that makes these people turn into lemmings as soon as Trump is in office?

And yes, I know Disney staged the whole lemmings jumping off a cliff thing, but the analogy stands, so don't fuckin' @ me.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 weeks ago

Texas... warns AGAINST something dumb?

Genuine surprise over here.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago

What a marvelously American headline.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago

I am sure the people who hold measles parties will definitely listen to the government's recommendations on health decisions.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I guess the idea behind a "measles party" is to introduce the virus to the child's immune system so that they can develop antibodies for it?

Damn, if only there was a safer way. Like if a doctor could introduce a very small amount of the virus to the child's immune system. Do you think a dead virus would be enough for the immune system to learn what it is and how to fight it? Why aren't scientists working on this?!

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Chicken pox parties were a thing in the 70s and 80s. I think that’s before they had a vaccine? I don’t remember measles parties being a thing though.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

No shit, chicken pox is not particularly serious compared to fucking measles. These people are idiots

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago

No offense but fuck Texas

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago

Woah, it really is the 1980s again. Time to get some cocaine I guess.

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