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[–] BrotherL0v3@lemmy.world 121 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Fun facts!

85% of people arrested with fentanyl at the border as U.S. citizens.

The vast majority of people arrested here for trafficking children are U.S. citizens (and children are over 3x more likely to be trafficked by an acquaintance or relative than they are a random kidnapper).

"Illegal aliens" commit less crime than natural born U.S. citizens.

Violent immigrants, perverted trans people, and incompetent DEI hires are all moral panics. You hear so much about them because the Republican party has nothing to offer that will make your life safer or easier.

[–] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

Shut the border down to all Americans until they can control their criminals. They arent sending their best.

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also the "tremendous amounts" of fentanyl coming in from Canada last year came to about 250 lbs.

[–] themagzuz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i'm not sure if you meant the number to be interpreted literally, but isn't 250lbs of fentanyl a lot. both psychonautwiki and substancesearch state that a "heavy" dose, which is where you start to seriously risk overdosing, (regardless of method of administration) is around 100ug. some quick back of the napkin math:

  • 250 lbs ≈ 1.1*10^11 ug
  • 1.1*10^11 ug/(100 ug/dose)=1.1 billion heavy doses
  • 1.1 billion doses/365 days≈3 million, i.e. assuming you take a heavy dose every single day if the year (which, again, will likely kill you), 250 lbs would be able to supply 3 million people for a whole year

of course, this is assuming 100% purity, so these numbers probably change quite substantially if "fentanyl" is actually defined as "substance containing fentanyl"

of course none of this is with the goal of defending whatever the fuck trump is doing, i just wanted to put into perspective that 250 lbs can actually be quite a lot for super potent substances like fentanyl

[–] Devanismyname@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 month ago

They've made a business out of selling panic and fear to the masses. Betraying their own people for money. Never trust a conservative politician or business person.

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[–] cowfodder@lemmy.world 111 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

Did this stupid mother fucker really refer to the Prime Minister of Canada as "governor"? Can't tell if pushing the 51st state bullshit or he's just that fucking dumb!

[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 94 points 1 month ago (2 children)

He thinks speaking diminutively to people automatically puts him in a position of power over them

It's an insecurity issue common with bullying

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[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 76 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

He has been for a while now, which is actually a violation of the US' nato obligations. But who care anymore, the US is no longer an ally.

Edit: it also violates a ton of border treaties, and half a doze international agreements the US has benefited from for a long time. But just with NATO:

Key points of the treaty

  • The parties agree to settle disputes peacefully
  • The parties agree to refrain from using force in a way that goes against the United Nations' goals
  • The parties agree to consider an attack on one of them as an attack on all of them
  • The parties agree to consult about threats and defense matters
  • The parties agree to safeguard the freedom, common heritage, and civilization of their peoples
  • The parties agree to promote stability and well-being in the North Atlantic area

Threatening Canada violates all of these and then some.

[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Trudeau should call him Mayor, or even better, "Convicted Rapist and Felon".

[–] null@slrpnk.net 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He's more subtle. He's been calling him just "Donald".

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[–] Noite_Etion@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Both, he honestly believes that he will take Canada and Trudeau will be demoted to a governor somehow.

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Canada at least has a "Governor-General" who is appointed by the British monarch.

Edit: like several other commonwealth states, Canada is a completely separate country from the United Kingdom. It just happens, by law, that King Charles III is the king of all of them.

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[–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 9 points 1 month ago

Carpet bomb them with inaccuracies and they'll spend too much time correcting you to keep up.

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 62 points 1 month ago (2 children)

All drugs should be legal and regulated.

[–] nylo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 month ago (24 children)

holy shit I can't believe I'm agreeing with a .ml user about something

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not all .ml are the same 😇

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

True, but none of them can say bitch

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[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Decriminalised use/possession, for sure.

But I always think the libertarian "just legalise all the drugs" is just odd.

Regulated? So you mean preventing people from taking really stupid shit? Sounds great sign me up lol

People gotta accept there are trade-offs to living in a society, and one of those is that there's a limit to which we allow each other to get high. Because there are some drugs that make people aggressive, and I personally think these ought to be curtailed where possible. (Again, not a "war on drugs" style curtailment. But distribution, still illegal and criminal)

You wanna take shit like meth? Cool, go out to the woods and never use socialised medicine where workers are at risk from people on such drugs, or just randoms walking down the street.

I don't think taking hard drugs should put you in prison, or even give you a criminal record, but actually legalising the distribution? Nah. Go live in the woods/hills away from everyone else.

[–] s23b@programming.dev 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Because there are some drugs that make people aggressive, and I personally think these ought to be curtailed where possible. (Again, not a "war on drugs" style curtailment. But distribution, still illegal and criminal)

The first such drug that comes to my mind is alcohol. Its distribution was also criminalized in the past, eventually leading to an increase in organized crime.

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[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

..pardoned..Ross Ulbricht..

Good. He should have been free the whole time.

https://reason.com/2018/07/25/ross-ulbrichts-murder-for-hire-charges-d/

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The giy who got caught trying to hire a hitman?

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No. The guy who was never convicted of that charge, which was dropped, and those agents were convicted of massive corruption. That guy.

https://reason.com/2018/07/25/ross-ulbrichts-murder-for-hire-charges-d/

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not reading anything from Reason, or any ither Libertarian rag

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Your choice, I won't force you to read it, keep spreading misinformation all you want. It's there for any who actually want to learn about his case and find out those charges were dropped and the agents convicted themselves.

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[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago

Yea, there are so many other guys, that he pardoned, which are way worse..

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[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I love that out minister Joly flat out told CNN, and I'm paraphrasing, "if we are being honest America is a net exporter of immigrants and drugs to Canada. Don't lie and say this is about drugs or immigrants it isn't. It's about destroying the Canadian economy so you can annex us for everything that makes us one of the most desired countries in the world to live."

Seriously fuck America

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[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Worse; you could buy people from the silk road. Wives, children, ~~nanny's~~ slaves... Along with military equipment, drugs ofc, stolen goods, and pretty much anything illegal that has a buyer.

Had a friend that liked buying drugs there, and would send me screenshots of some of the insane ads he found. He was pissed when it got shut down, and moved to a market called 'Agora'.

Broke off that friendship quite a while ago and haven't heard about it since. Not really my scene...

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This isn't true, there was no category for buying human beings. I don't even think hitmen were allowed to offer their services.

Military equipment and stolen goods, absolutely. Hacked accounts, too. But any ad he found was either promptly removed or was never on The Silk Road to begin with.

Other non-drug markets did exist at the time but I never went on them so I can't confirm if they were selling slaves.

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[–] Lowpast@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (3 children)

False, no human trafficking, cp, or hitmen services were allowed and were promptly removed, except when Ross him self tried to buy one. Obviously people attempted to hide their sales, just like they do in the clearnet, but the site had a policy against many things.

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 9 points 1 month ago

I don't think there was ever any solid proof Ross tried to do that.

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[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Pardoning Ulbricht is the incredibly thin silver lining of Trump's presidency. These drug war advocates talk like they really believe this problem can be solved with criminal justice, meanwhile they defund harm reduction education and make healthcare inaccessible. It's diabolical.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Ulbricht was a sack of shit. He tried to hire several hitmen to kill agents investigating his stuff. He isn't someone you want to get behind.

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[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

It's always been nothing but smoke and mirrors with Trump

The thing he cares about is making you think he cares

The grift is always his focus

[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)
[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Evidence was tainted/fabricated by a crooked cop and Ulbricht was never convicted of it.

[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Well, that's not quite what happened. There is evidence he ordered the hit and paid for it. The tainted cop tricked Ulbricht into thinking that the killing took place.

Source:
Page 19 under heading "2. Murders Commissioned by Dread Pirate Roberts"

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[–] miak@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

I agree that Trump doesn't care about the fentanyl issue. If he did, he'd be ending the war on drugs.

I would like to point out, Ross Ulbricht was sentenced for running a website, to double life plus 40 years in prison without possibility of parole. It was a bullshit sentence that came at the end of a trial of questionable integrity. The fact that neither Obama or Biden pardoned him is one more embarrassment for the Democrats.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He was not sentenced for running a website, holy shit man. He paid to have people killed and in at least one case believed it happened (it didn't, the hitmen were all scammers or law enforcement)

Let's not paint a rosy picture of Ross Ulbrecht here.

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[–] iiinnnn@lemm.ee 13 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Pardoning him was however a good thing, given price gouging regarding medications

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[–] Anivia@feddit.org 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As much as I hate Trump, I don't think this is the "gotcha" it is being portraied as by this tweet. Silk Road was one of the best things to happen for the "safer use" movement of all time. The ability to not have to deal with shady street dealers and order from darknet suppliers on a platform that had legitimate reviews and an escrow system was a huge improvement to the safety of drugs users. It meant a much lower risk of contaminated drugs or getting scammed out of your money.

Of course Ross allegedly also attempted to hire a hitman, which is how he got caught, cause the hitman was an undercover agent, so he allegedly is not a good guy regardless of how you think about him helping people get access to cleaner drugs, but that's besides the point the author of the tweet is trying to make

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (7 children)

People died from overdoses not to mention lots more ruined lives. I get you like the idea of drugs that are safer to order but that does not make it a good thing.

Also lots of child pornography, murder for hire, human trafficking, and all kinds of other shitty things took place. So yeah, not exactly a good thing.

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[–] Alloi@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

my assumption is that he wants a guy like that to assist in the operations of a new american run private cartel network, after they have ousted mexican cartels who cant be reasoned with to give up their profits to the US Oligarchs and private contract groups. they get a chance to install their own american run mexican cartel in mexico, and take over their drug trade for private funding operations. it would explain the 3000 troops they sent to the southern boarder, among other "official" reason.

this guy will help them with connecting with private sellers, to private clients, and logistics. im also assuming that this "new silk road" will be heavily monitored under the guise of decentralization and privacy, for use in things like blackmail, and coercion of users. or simply to attack other drug trade networks by undermining their image and pricing.

but what do i know? im just some guy in a bathtub.

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago (5 children)

If any of these worthless politicians actually gave a shit about drug abuse, they would end prohibition and offer basic social services.

Never gonna happen regardless of the politician's brand.

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[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

I also want to point out that when whites are addicts, they go after the dealers. When blacks are addicted, they go after the users

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