Yes, the old strategy of overwhelming the hospital system with mouth breathers.
Amazing strategy, Raisinhead.
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I consider him more of an apple head.
Hospitals should be able to refuse patients who get diseases that are preventable with vaccines. Problem solved.
No. For multiple reasons:
- Vaccines are not 100% effective. They reduce the likelihood of infection if you are exposed. The whole point of trying to get everyone vaccinated is to reduce the infection rate so that there's less likely to be an outbreak. With a vaccinated population, the virus can't spread fast enough to maintain a pool of infected people to keep spreading it. But that doesn't mean nobody gets sick.
- Vaccines are not as effective on some people. There's a range of effectiveness.
- Not everyone can get vaccinated. People with certain allergies or compromised immune systems in particular.
- Some parts of the population have higher risk factors than others and when they get sick it can be much more serious. Usually the very old and the very young. And again, people with compromised immune systems, or other conditions that complicate the illness.
- Kids whose parents refuse to get them vaccinated are put at elevated risk through no fault of their own.
I could probably keep going, but hopefully you get the idea why that's just not a viable approach.
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That's unfortunately an extremely slippery slope.
If vaccines (or lack thereof) are enough to refuse "service", why treat lung cancer in smokers? What about type 2 diabetes?
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“The measles gave you lifetime protection against measles infection,” Robert F. Kennedy Jr. told Sean Hannity on Fox News.
Wouldn't it be great if there was something else that gave you protection against measles infection, without you actually having to have measles? If only ...
The measles vaccine is literally a weakened version of the measles virus. It’s just an attenuated measles infection that allows your body to build antibodies against it without a full on infection.
This guy should have stayed off the raw meat.
As I said in a different thread recently, the only issue is that the name "vaccine" has been tainted in the minds of idiots. Rebrand it as "natural immune system therapy" or something, and market it as something the establishment is firmly against, and they'd be lining up to get it.
None of these people understand what vaccines actually do.
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Fuck this assclown, my wife is allergic to the measles vaccination and will likely die if she gets the disease.
We did that, we gave everyone a very mild, usually symptomless, case of the measles. We called it vaccination.
The sacrifice: Republican voters are declining
Democratic voters remain unchanged
Red State goes to Purple State
That was the theory behind COVID as well, and while it did happen at a 2:1 ratio, it wasn't enough to impact the election in any way.
Edit: I'll mention it needs to happen in a statistically significant margin, within the swing states exclusively. Diseases and viruses unfortunately don't operate off electoral maps...If it was just a general vote, it wouldn't be an issue.
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Measles also resets your immune system for every other thing your body already learned to deal with. No, it would not be fucking better.
Dumb son of a bitch doesn’t even understand that a vaccine is “giving someone the disease” without killing them. God damn are we devolving that fast?
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- Measles estimated case-fatality rate: 1.3%
- Estimated US population: 346,715,067
- Measles deaths if everyone in the US got measles: 4,507,295
- Upper limit on estimated MMR vaccine caused anaphylaxis: 0.000066%
- Anaphylaxis case-fatality rate: 0.3%
- Estimated vaccine-caused fatality rate: 1.98 * 10^-7 %
- Estimate vaccine-caused fatalities avoided by not vaccinating US population: 0.69
- Net increase in fatalities from switching to measles natural immunity for everyone in the US: 4,507,294
So it would only be better if he wants an extra 4.5 million Americans to die.
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Conspiracy theorists for the last few decades: "The government is trying to murder us!"
The actual government in 2025: "Yes, we would like it if a grand majority of you were to die"
Conspiracy theorists: crickets
Conspiracy theorists: crickets
Agreed, FACTUAL EVIDENCE of a conspiracy theory is collected by reputable Johns Hopkins University and George Washington University and crickets. People flock to conspiracies with no evidence, but once one appears with authentic validation... nothing.
Troll accounts that had attempted to influence the US election had also been tweeting about vaccines, a study says. Many posted both pro- and anti-vaccination messages to create "false equivalency", the study found. It examined thousands of tweets sent between 2014 and 2017. Vaccination was being used by trolls and sophisticated bots as a "wedge issue", said Mark Dredze from Johns Hopkins University. "A significant portion of the online discourse about vaccines may be generated by malicious actors with a range of hidden agendas," said David Broniatowski from George Washington University. The researchers reviewed more than 250 tweets about vaccination from accounts linked to the St Petersburg-based Internet Research Agency (IRA). In February the agency was named in a US indictment over alleged election meddling.
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Remember the conspiracy theorists who though "the government" was using Covid-19 to cull the population? I wonder what they're up to right now.
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Measles is capable of resetting the immune system's memory of other vaccines. This sack of shit is so incredibly dangerous.
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I'm still optimistic the lifers at HHS who stood firm and didn't resign are just slowly teaching Lil Bobby what a vaccine is:
While RFK Jr. recently shifted his stance to concede that vaccinations are actually pretty useful, he has still stopped short of urging skeptics to go and get it. And in an interview with Fox News’ Sean Hannity that aired Tuesday night, he appeared to still favor natural immunity through exposure to the virus.
"It used to be, when I were a kid, that everybody got measles. And the measles gave you lifetime protection against measles infection,” he said, then taking a swipe at the vaccine. “The vaccine doesn’t do that. The vaccine is effective for some people for life, but for many people it wanes.”
Like, he is damn close to understanding a measles vaccine is measles, just a hindered version that won't be able to reproduce and cause harm. And real close to understanding the need for booster shots.
He's still not there, and it seems to be taking weeks for what can be covered in depth in 15 minutes.
But eventually I hope they'll win him over.
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"A bunch of kids should die in pain so many more may live in fear."
-- RFKjr
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No RFK, things would be much better if YOU got measles
With you gone, people could vaccinate again and then they wouldn't get sick, you worm for brains
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I think RFK is the Horseman of Plague. Guess the role of Famine goes to Musk, and War belongs to Trump. I am not yet sure who is Death, but they will reveal themselves soon enough.
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Uhhhhhh doesn’t measles reset your immune system or something like that?
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The dems really need to appoint a shadow cabinet and hold press conferences with fact checks and useful advice about how to get vaccinated.
I'm glad that I am science literate and live close to the canadian border.
As a bonus for contracting measles, you'll get all your previous vaccines and earned immunities deleted by the measles virus attacking your immune cells dedicated to remembering how to effectively fight past pathogens.
So you can think of measles as THE antivaccine. No wonder the antivaxxers love it so much!
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What a stupid motherfucker. Anyone who voted for these venal clowns ought to be ashamed of themselves.
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Not supporting this dude, but I watched the whole video and he never once said it would be better if everyone got measles. Maybe I missed it; if so, please correct me. He mentioned a waning effect with the vaccine vs full-blown infection, which I highly doubt is accurate (I'll research it later), but that's a massive stretch to get to the headline. He even recommended vaccines and said they will be available for free to anyone that needs them. I've gotten a little lazy in fact checking left leaning stuff because I always felt it was a little more trustworthy. I'm just starting to wonder how much I've been blindly accepting because it conforms to my biases.
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Damn. If only there was a way to get protection against measles without having to get measles. Some sort of injection. That'd be useful.
Maybe an infusion
We are in such a crazy timeline.
This is the kind of shit you'd see on some forum. If the forum was moderated, they'd eventually get booted.
When I was debating fucking morons like this, I never suspected that one of these assholes would be put in charge of our fucking health. It's just so insane.
United States Secretary of Health and Human Services here everybody.
It’d be better if you were an obscure and unimportant member of the Kennedy family and stayed that way.
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My father had measles when he was a little boy, sometime in the 1940s. It nearly killed him. Measles is no joke. Anyone trying to spread it around on purpose should get a bullet in the brain before they have a chance to harm others.
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Any sane person already had measles Rob. We were smart enough to get the vaccine.
Hand picked by the president to be the best person for the job for leading the dept of health.
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And polio too, right.
The best defense against measles is to not have Republican parents.
The only way to stop a bad guy with measles is a good guy with measles, I guess.
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